All I guess I was trying to point out was that, IF you are doing music that primarily revolves around convoluted synth programming, a synth is likely the best tool.

No offense, but I NEVER hear any of you guys bitch about the fact that the M3, or the Triton, or MoXS ISN'T an arranger as well... Somehow, what IT does, and its' focus is entirely OK, but the arranger sucks for not having all of their capabilities?

Oh, you'll say... WS users don't NEED arranger capabilities. They are focused on different musical genres, and their players on the whole, don't NEED or even want standard arranger functionality.

And that is my point... MOST arranger users don't need or want the advanced WS features, either. The product is focused on what it needs to be an easy to use gigging machine, or a simple accompaniment device for those with limited playing skills. Anything that confuses or distracts the arranger from that focus diminishes the product, just as any serious effort to make the WS an arranger is going to distract from it being the best WS it can be.

Personally, I'd rather have seen a dozen fills, four break/fills and six Variations as the basis for a new Korg arranger than a powerhouse sampler or detail voice editing (BTW, both Roland and Yamaha voice designers have access to FAR more voice programming capabilities than the user - as long as THEY can use them, they are still there, aren't they? It's not like the voice engine is as barebones as the arrangers controls make them seem).

Personally, I simply think that more variation in what the ARRANGER engine can do, as opposed to the voice engine, makes a bigger difference to how musical our performances are, IF you are actually using the arranger as an arranger. Maybe if you are trying to shoehorn a WS out of it, you might feel differently, but what is weird is that MOST of those crying out for 'more editing!' already HAVE very excellent WS's. When you have an Oasys, why do you NEED your PA2 to do the same thing..? Let it concentrate on doing what the Oasys CAN'T do...

But honestly, if you aren't constantly bitching on the WS forums that the WS isn't an arranger, you don't have much credibility to come to the arranger forum, and bitch that it isn't a full WS WS's have no problem with not being an arranger. And arrangers shouldn't have to defend themselves for not being a WS...