Fran i think u missed my thread i did when i got back here a few days ago..feet in the water..i had to use a credit from g.kaye..and he isnt EV dealer-- but had 2 like-new passives for $400..add the mixer at $200 that's less than 1 powered EV..maybe doesnt have quite that spectacular sound as the powered one..but gives me more versatility, and they are 11 lbs lighter. mackies are too heavy for me and are more $. the K4 is too heavy for me 57lbs. i dont need heavy bass at all..dont do dance music just jazz/latin/standards. bass i no issue, thats why i prefer a 12 for better vocals even if 15s were same weight and price. thanks/

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Miami Mo