Hay Squeak,
I hope you will be able to find a file to send to Fran. While I don’t think that the file would be able to be duplicated (since hiphop uses tweaked sounds) It may probably be able to get the general feel.
I agree with what you are saying as a general rule especially when you are talking about the PSRs and keyboards in and below that price range and keyboard quality.
I do think however that some of the more recent flagship arrangers like PA1x, G70 and Genesys, are in some respect capable of helping the user to create a hiphop track. I don’t think you will be able to do an entire CD of hiphop tracks with just one arranger (or one instrument for that matter), but you can get one or two decent ones.
I think it all depends on the specific arranger that is being used. For example, I have done a few hiphop and other urban tracks on the Genesys and to my surprised I was able to get some deep sounding basses and bass drums that other people liked. One thing about the Genesys is that you don’t just get your bass drums (or any other drum sounds) from just with in the drum kit. Each sound in the drum kit has its own patch number and space. I would use that and play with the LFOs, resonance, filter cut-offs, EQ and other sound changing tools to get the type of sound I want. I have even had persons that had the Korg Triton say to me that they prefer the Genesys drums because they sound deeper and bassyer out of the box. For them to get the Triton to sound like that, they have to apply a lot of effects. Is the Genesys a hiphop making tool? Absolutely not! Nor is any single hardware or software music making tool. I guess my point is that it all boils down to how well one knows the instruments and how well the instrument can be tweaked.
Hiphop and other urban music are very diverse musical genres today. No one equipment or creation technique (styles or patterns) is dominant. At the end of the day it all boils down to whether or not you have a hit or whether you are satisfied with what was produced.
p.s
I almost forgot. One thing we have to take in to account is that a lot of hiphop producers use mixers before they go in to their recording device to get that bass sound they want or to bring out the highs. They do this regardless of what equipment is giving the bass sounds like the Motif.
[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 09-28-2005).]
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