Hello again and thanks for the constructive replies, I really do appreciate it. I also appreciate that you either prefer the sound of the Korg or that of the Roland. At this stage I am neutral and if we could focus on features and working style it would be really helpful to me.

More thoughts. I like the fact that the Roland G70 can have an SRX card and the sounds can be used in a style - this could be very useful. On the other hand the Korg being able to import sample loops sounds good but I have never used samples before - are they auto beat-matched, can you change tempo without pitch and can they be used as part of a style? Could I import my own samples ie record someting from any source as a .wav file?

8 Tracks of instrumentation on either keyboard is more than enough for a style. I actually want to play live into the sequencer in addition to this and also to sequence my other sounds modules and synths using the Korg or Roland sequencer. I see the style as a basic backing band with me doing all lead and most (non-guitar) rythmn stuff live.

On sound editing the Korg only seems to have one more synth parameter than the Roland but I have not checked out the effects yet, I will do this today.

It is interesting to hear the thoughts about whether an arranger can be used for the type of music that I want to do. If I can use it just as a sequencer without using any styles other than drums and it is way easier than the Motif or Fantom - is it easier? - then I can live with that.

If I am limited to only being able to create 12 different 'loops' to use within a style this is also ok as I really only want to use the styles as basic backing and will play live over the top with additional layers stored in the on-board sequencer. So long as both arrangers allow me to do this it will not be a problem at all.I think that they both have 16 tracks so this is enough. I notice that the Korg has two sequencers but am not sure of the benefit of this.

The Korg does have a touch screen and it works fine. I prefer the position of the sliders being under the screen on the Roland from an ergonomic point of view but this is not essential.

Can anyone comment on the availability of third party styles for the type of music that I want to do. Are they easier to find for the Roland or Korg. Watching the Yamaha Tyros online video I was thinking oh my, this is not what I want at all until he started on a few 'dance' pieces but the Tyros as presented was far from the type of music that I want to do. Whilst I know that I can customise the styles I would like to have a few hundred of each style so that my music is not too samey.

The other thing about the styles is that I would like good variation between the variations, meaning that on the Roland I think that there was not that much variation - just more instrumentation based on the same groove? I might be mistaken and will play again today to be sure. My preference would be to have different chords and notes played, particularly for the chorus. On the Roland, and maybe the Korg, the other thing that I noticed was that the third and forth variation invariably meant that the drumming really picked up the pace which is something that I would not always want. On that point, what is drum editing like on both machines? Step or live?

Based on this further update from me does this narrow it down a bit, or are they both neck and neck? Thank you.