Hiphop on arrangers.
As a person who has been producing beats for over 10 years, (hiphop being one of the genres) I would say it is possible to produce a good hiphop beat on a high-end arranger.

Now you can not do a whole hiphop CD all from an arranger, but you can get a real good sounding beat on a high-end arranger if you are creative, you know your keyboard and you put in the time to make a beat.

If people are saying that you can not make good modern sounding hiphop beats on an arranger, and that is based on a PSR 3000 or other arrangers in that group, then it is not the full story.


You really have to try it on a high-end arranger and know how to use the editing features of the arranger. When I say editing, I am not just talking about sound editing, but also effects editing, EQing, the use of the pitch bend and so on. Obviously, the ability of the arranger to sample or to load sounds and samples is crucial.


I suppose you can start with factory hiphop styles and edit it, but as others have stated here, hiphop styles on an arranger a just not good.

I was more talking about creating something from scratch.


I have done this on my Genesys. I have found some bass drum sounds that work for hiphop. I say �found� because unless you take the time to explore the keyboard and go beyond the first 3 or 4 pages of sounds you would not know they are their.

Then with the sound editing capabilities and effects you tweak it until you get something good and fresh.

I know a lot of persons who like to rhyme to some of my beats created on my Genesys.


Even persons who made beats on Motifs and Tritons always said they like some of the drum and synth sounds on the Genesys even with out tweaking the sounds or effects. You see, on the Motifs and Tritons, in order to get good sounding drum and other sounds, you have to use effects and EQ.


As stated here, the sounds of hiphop changes almost weekly so what you can do and sounds good today, is old news next week. The Triton and the MPC was and still are to some extent the number 1 hiphop tool then the Motif. Now it has just busted open to computer softsynths. Basically, now it is any thing goes. What ever you can use to make your beats to sound good, fresh and different is acceptable. You have to be creative and think out of the box.


O K I think I have let enough cats out of the bag.



[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 07-22-2006).]