Originally posted by Diki:
I think that the reason arrangers don't get much respect in the US (we're a small fraction of the total keyboard market) is that there is very little development of styles in these rap and hiphop styles....... Oh yes, you'll find a few on your arranger, but outnumbered by ballroom styles 20-1, 30-1 etc..
Plus they just don't seem to have much 'flava', sort of a middle of the road version of rap.
Tritons and Motifs are FLYING off the shelves in the US, in large part due to the excellent, cutting edge arpeggiated and beat-boxed patches that sound like something phresh off the radio. Try one in the store, you think that you could be a rap star........... Try an arranger, you think you're going to play an old folks home!
BUT.......... there is no technical reason why any of the top-of-the-line arrangers can't make the same beats, but no-one programs them that way! The voicing team that makes the slammin' beats in a FantomX never gets used by Roland to make styles for the G70, etc..
If any of these companies chose to address the needs of the younger (at heart!) generation, rather than their corporate roadmaps, Tyros2's and G70s would be all the rage in the 'hood and their bottom lines would soar!
Because of the simple repetitive nature of modern urban music, arrangers are BY FAR the best tool to make it with (at least live......), and only need better, younger style programmers, and perhaps an SRX board with more urban drumkits and sounds on it (more profit!!) to dominate the workstation market.
After all, just like most other forms of music, it's easier and more fun to do it on an arranger than have to program it on a workstation.........
I am not being bias here at all, but the PSR 3000, and the Tyros 2 have excellent R&B and Hip Hop beats.
I am a younger player and I love the modern dance Ibiza/euro type styles and I have tried technics, casio(yes casio..I was poor) and roland, and at the moment the PSR 3K and T2 are awesome for all contemporary genres of music. (not sure about the G70 or E80)
For a long time keyboards have had really tacky old fashioned styles when it comes to "rap" or "hip hop" or "techno" but now its good enough and at the level it should be.
Besides, too many people complain that certain keybaords lack a certain particular style of such.. HELLO its an arranger stop being lazy and make your own!!
Cheers,
Nick
[This message has been edited by Nick G (edited 07-21-2006).]
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