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#235676 - 06/09/08 03:01 AM Best B3 Simulation
Bernie9 Offline
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What do you guys use for your drawbar needs ? In reading reviews, it appears the Hammond XK3C is close to the top. The other question is, if I don't care about grunge, and overdrive, do I need the latest at $2295. The Leslie sim is the most important.

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#235677 - 06/09/08 03:35 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bernie9:
What do you guys use for your drawbar needs ? In reading reviews, it appears the Hammond XK3C is close to the top. The other question is, if I don't care about grunge, and overdrive, do I need the latest at $2295. The Leslie sim is the most important.

Bernie
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#235678 - 06/09/08 03:38 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
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I wrote a long reply and lost it and didn't feel like trying to reconstuct it. Sorry.

chas
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#235679 - 06/09/08 03:55 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
Bernie9 Offline
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Hi Chas
What about a short one ?
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#235680 - 06/09/08 04:16 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
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Due to several circumstances, I haven't tried the Nord C1, but I have tried the Hammond XK1 which has the same rotary simulation as the XK3c.

The XK1 has a very accurate sim in my opinion...closest you'll get without the actually "moving air" of a real Leslie.

It's less expensive than the XK3c and has a different keybed, but it sounds pretty well identical to my ears.

Ian

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#235681 - 06/09/08 05:38 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
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I have the XK-1 and LOVE IT! It is a great single keyboard, no frills B3 sibling. It has presets and a couple electronic "pianos" that can get you thru in a pinch, but basically it's just a great organ. You can split the keyboard and play right, left and/or bass. Great keyboard for under $1500.
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#235682 - 06/09/08 07:10 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
cgiles Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bernie9:
Hi Chas
What about a short one ?


Ok, short version. I don't feel as though this question can be answered without your detailing it's intended use (studio,live performance) and what's most important to you (cost, weight, sound authenticity, etc.). Also, is softsynth (NI B4, etc.) a possible consideration? Is this going to be the primary instrumental voice? If so, is dual-manual or real drawbars important to you? Is there an absolute MAX budget? Are you bothered by the color red? Ok, scratch the last one .

I just can't see anyone giving you an accurate or even educated recommendation without these questions being answered.

chas
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#235683 - 06/09/08 07:25 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
Bernie9 Offline
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Chas
I am rushing out to my band gig, but will attempt a short answer. I need it as primary backing in the band of about 20. We play to seniors(150-200). Mostly big band and standards. I solo one verse(4), piano solo(with my backing), and I play the other two with the band. I use the G70, which is pretty good. I have Receptor, which is a little more authentic(B4), but a pain to carry in large case. The budget is open, but I don't want to spend a lot for features I don't need. I do want a very good Leslie effect with perc, slow and fast speed. Rock organ and overdrive not used much.

Hope this helps.

Bernie
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#235684 - 06/09/08 07:40 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
Bachus Offline
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Unarguably, The NI B4 II is the most versatile and best sounding B3 simulation available...

Hook up a laptop with this Vsti and some decent midi sound interface, and it'll cost you less then $1000 including hardware and software...

Then all you need is a hardware interface for your drawbars, they ain't to expensive either.
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#235685 - 06/09/08 07:52 AM Re: Best B3 Simulation
captain Russ Offline
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I use a C-1, Electro or XB 2 with either a Motion sound top rotor box or an Motion Sond 145 on my one-nighters. I have a B-3 and 147 RV which I leave on one of my house jobs. Use it about 30 times a year there. Getting used to the drawbar (simulation) set-up on the Nords, but like the traditional feel of the drawbars on the XB-3 better.

Real doppler is critical to me for a natural B-3 sound (by the way, glad the G-70 is working for you!).


Russ

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