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#177647 - 10/26/03 06:57 AM PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
mikerr765 Offline
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Registered: 08/16/03
Posts: 26
Hi,
I am considering a psr 550 but dont really need all 16 track ect.. I really just want a good piano and organ sound. I would like something that sounds good just through the stock speaker which the psr 550 seems I think it has tweeters also. do the lower priced models have tweeters also? Is noticed a model out called the Yamaha PSRK1, I have not seen one though to try out. does it have as good of voices and is the sound system as good as the 550??? Its over $100 less. are there any other model i so should consider??

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#177648 - 10/26/03 08:00 AM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
Bluebird Offline
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Registered: 07/02/02
Posts: 142
Yes, you must consider new EXR-5, with a great piano voice, and 550 $ I think.

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#177649 - 10/26/03 11:24 AM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
mikerr765 Offline
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Registered: 08/16/03
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Thanks for the reply, I am not familiar with this model, I found this....
Roland EXR 5 keyboard, 61 keys with touch response, 510sounds, 103 styles, 64 polyphone, cover function, 1,5 MBmemory for songs, music assistent with 100 registrations,16 track sequenzer, digital effects, Midi IN/OUT, USBjack, 2 headphone jacks, floppy disc, loudspeaker 2 x 10Watt, dimensions : 102cm x 35,5cm x 13,2cm, inclusivepower supply

It looks impressive, the psr550 only has 6 watts, does this have tweeters???
Anyone compared it to the psr550 side by side?
I cannot find it in the U.S in a web search though??

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#177650 - 10/26/03 12:27 PM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
Bluebird Offline
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Registered: 07/02/02
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EXR-5 is a new arranger from Roland. It will be at stores in two weeks here in Europe (I don't know in USA).
It will have a beautiful piano voice, and good keys for piano playing (Yamaha have smaller keys and with a bad feel).
About tweeter, I don't know... But PSR550 doesn't have tweeters, I think.
Perhaps other Yamaha kbs have better piano voice and better keys (DGX series, for example, or PK1) and have good price.
But you must see, play and listen before buy.
Cheers

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#177651 - 10/26/03 02:29 PM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
Don't be fooled by the PSR-550's tweeters! The tweeters in the 550 are strictly cosmetic, and DO NOT function. I've owned the PSR-540 and currently own the PSR-550. The tweeters do not work in either model. I even emailed a tech several times on that issue and to date NEVER got a response on it. Shame on Yammie for that one! That new Roland might be something to check out too.. However I'm not sure if you can record user styles with it though.

Squeak
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#177652 - 10/26/03 03:16 PM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
Bluebird Offline
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Registered: 07/02/02
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EXR-5 has 103 styles: 84 fixed (you can't change them) and 19 styles you may to change.
It is great.

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#177653 - 10/26/03 03:31 PM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
mikerr765 Offline
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Registered: 08/16/03
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The tweeters don't work or there are not even tweters in it? are they just hole to fool us?

I don't have any stores close that carry these models can someone tell me is the PSRK1
as good of a piano and organ voice as the 550 how about the dgx 300 and are the speakers the same???

If the roland is not out in europe yet when can we look for it in the U.S. anyone talk to roland yet?

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#177654 - 10/26/03 05:02 PM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
I think you'll find the PSR-550's voices to be slightly of better quality than the PSRK-1. Also the PSRK-1 does not have a pitchbend wheel. The 550 has 8mb's of sound memory, and I believe the PSRK-1 has 4-6mb's... Yes the tweeters do not work in the 550, or the 540, and the 350, and 340 as well.... The tweeters are there just to make the board look better. I wish Yammie would not have done that. Tweeters would really bring the sound out more on the 550's internal speakers. The DGX 300 and 500 have pretty good sounds.. I think the piano is better in those models than in the 550.. If I remember correctly someone said in a post some time ago that the piano in those models is the same as on the 9000 Pro.... Not sure if that's true, but I think someone posted that a while back. I've never played the 9000 Pro so I can't truly answer that one The 300 and 500 also have some sweet voices. However the drums in the 300 and 500 are not the same quality as the 550. I know both those models have tweeters, but whether they work or not I don't know... When I demoed them in a music store it was pretty noisy at the time..... What's the price of that new Roland?

Squeak
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#177655 - 10/27/03 07:41 AM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
The price of the new Roland is:
590 Euros = $691.47 U.S. or $925.62 Cdn.
That's using a conversion utility, actual landed cost might be different. Looks like it might be priced between the PSR550 and PSR1100. Clever. Going head-to-head with Yamaha would be challenging for Roland. Still, I'm looking forward to demoing this keyboard. I would expect the Pianos and organs to be good on this unit. I'm very happy with the acoustic piano and organs on my Roland EM20 keyboard, but the Yamaha gets the nod on electric pianos.
OT. I'm concerned that Roland is not discontinueing the EM55. I am hoping the the EXR-5 is superior to the EM55 (even though the EM55 is more expensive) as I was not impressed with the EM55. If Roland thinks the EM55 is a better quality keyboard then the EXR-5, and if I agree, then it won't be one of my xmas gifts.
Starkeeper
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I play Roland EM20 and Yamaha PSR550

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#177656 - 10/28/03 11:45 AM Re: PSR 550 Equal or similar model???
YamahaUS1 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 238
Loc: Buena Park, CA, USA
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Yes the tweeters do not work in the 550, or the 540, and the 350, and 340 as well.... The tweeters are there just to make the board look better. I wish Yammie would not have done that. Tweeters would really bring the sound out more on the 550's internal speakers...
Squeak [/B]



Squeak, I'm sorry if we failed to respond to you regarding this issue. I wonder how you came to the conclusion that the tweeters dont do anything. The tweeters are real tweeters and are absolutely connected to the power amp. Yamaha could put on a cosmetic thingy that might lead customers to believe that the instrument is more than it really is, but that's not the case. The tweeters may not be as brilliant as you like, but they are working. Neither Yamaha nor any other manufacturer can afford to throw components into a product that dont do anything. I have the luxury of being able to compare the same sample on 2 keyboards, 1 with that tweeter and 1 without. Very noticeable difference, particularly on the harmonics of piano bass notes.


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