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#429782 - 03/12/17 01:28 AM
Re: Casio and Yamaha digital pianos
[Re: Mark79100]
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I was in Guitar Center last week trying out the Casio Privia's because they have a lot of them on display. From the 1st one I tried I liked the sound quality and the keyboard "feel" of each model Casio. With the weight at 25 lbs and the attractive pricing, I figured I'd buy one for a "knock-about" keyboard.
On the way out the door the Yamaha 115 caught my eye. Great sound, great touch, not that much heavier and on sale for $475. I spoke to the salesman. He said "why would you want to buy a Casio "toy piano" when the Yamaha is so much more professional.
That's where I got confused. Are my not hearing things correctly? I've heard others comment about the "toy Casio's." But I thought they both sounded really good......just a different "really good."
So......anyone have any of their own comments on the two brands? BTW I don't like that Casio PS5.....it sound like it's more for rock music.
Mark Casio definately is not a toy piano, i can imagine however a salesman making such a remark because the profit margin on Yamaha instruments is bigger then on any of the other brands, thats a reason why all professional music salesmen will often try to sell you a yamaha.. Casio piano, ep , pads, synths and strings hold up to the cheaper yamaha models.. where Casio still is of the mark is with many of the other orchestral sounds, brass, winds and such often sail behind in quallity and are very very basic.. I really like the 88 keybed thats in the casio, best thing is, you still have grip when your fingers are sweating and moist.. it takes some getting used to the actuall feel, but after that its top.. also its a tripple sensor action... only the high end yamaha action found in their pro models i like even better then this casio action.. but then, that would require you to spend thousands of dollars on a cp4 or the like... Alos take into account the Roland fp30 and the kawai es110 they also offer great action and top knotch piano sounds under €1000.. the fp90 and es8 are even furter ahead, but more expensive... but both come very very close to a real granpiano feel and have high end sounds on board..
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#429835 - 03/13/17 07:48 AM
Re: Casio and Yamaha digital pianos
[Re: Mark79100]
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In the last few years I had the Casio Privia PX-350 and then the PX-160. While the feel and response is definitely superior to Yamaha, I did find them kind of noisy too. Furthermore, after a little over a year of playing each, the keys got noisier. The Casios are great for self expression. I could really get my ya ya's out in a way that I couldn't with the cheap Yamahas.
I sold the PX-350 because of the noisy keys, and used the $$ to get the PX-160 which brand new wasn't so noisy. After a year, the PX-160 was noisy. Fortunately, the Casio had a 2 year warranty. They completely replaced the keys! The recently repaired PX-160 is now for sale on Craigslist because I too bought the Roland FP90 which plays like an absolute dream and sounds incredible.
The FP90 has great acoustic piano and EP's. I play mostly through headphones or through my Rokit monitors with a subwoofer. I play around with Pianoteq too.
I have heard that in the under $1000 range that the Kawai ES-110 has the best piano feel even though it only has two sensors. I have heard some negative comments from several people about the Roland FP30 that the keys don't come up quickly enough and that it's more fatiguing on the wrists.
From my playing experience and anecdotally, Yamaha is behind all competitors in the under $2000 range. Sad, but true.
If I were spending under $2000, I would go with the Roland FP-90 or the Kawai ES-8. Under $1000, I would get the Kawai ES-110. Under $500, get a Casio.
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#429846 - 03/13/17 08:58 AM
Re: Casio and Yamaha digital pianos
[Re: Beakybird]
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In the last few years I had the Casio Privia PX-350 and then the PX-160. While the feel and response is definitely superior to Yamaha, I did find them kind of noisy too. Furthermore, after a little over a year of playing each, the keys got noisier. The Casios are great for self expression. I could really get my ya ya's out in a way that I couldn't with the cheap Yamahas.
I sold the PX-350 because of the noisy keys, and used the $$ to get the PX-160 which brand new wasn't so noisy. After a year, the PX-160 was noisy. Fortunately, the Casio had a 2 year warranty. They completely replaced the keys! The recently repaired PX-160 is now for sale on Craigslist because I too bought the Roland FP90 which plays like an absolute dream and sounds incredible.
The FP90 has great acoustic piano and EP's. I play mostly through headphones or through my Rokit monitors with a subwoofer. I play around with Pianoteq too.
I have heard that in the under $1000 range that the Kawai ES-110 has the best piano feel even though it only has two sensors. I have heard some negative comments from several people about the Roland FP30 that the keys don't come up quickly enough and that it's more fatiguing on the wrists.
From my playing experience and anecdotally, Yamaha is behind all competitors in the under $2000 range. Sad, but true.
If I were spending under $2000, I would go with the Roland FP-90 or the Kawai ES-8. Under $1000, I would get the Kawai ES-110. Under $500, get a Casio. to make the list complete... just above €2000 there are the Roland RD2000 which plays as fantastic as the FP90 but has so much more controll options and even better sounds. And then there is the high end with Kurzweil Forte and Nord Stage.. which surprisingly cant keep up with the keyfeel of Roland and Kawai. Also at the high end of the spectrum there are the 88 key workstation Kronos and the Montage, which both make excellent piano's with a better (but non weighted) hammer action (better then Nord and Kurzweil) but still inferior to the Rolands and Kawais. But if you just want piano... with some ipad integration.... go FP90... it feels and sounds better then most upright piano'sin the under €5000 price range.
Edited by Bachus (03/13/17 09:00 AM)
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