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#70057 - 03/19/10 07:39 PM KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
Buddy Offline
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Registered: 07/26/06
Posts: 46
Loc: London, UK
I have a KN7000 that I intend to sell. No scratch at all, no spot. The machine is in 100% prestine condition - stored away and hardly brought out of its beautiful flight case. All accessories and pedals intact.

Could SZ members please advise me on the price such could go for.

Thanks.

Buddy

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#70058 - 03/20/10 02:20 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
RMepstead Offline
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Registered: 06/15/02
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About £750 at the moment - a bit more for you londoners!!!
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#70059 - 03/24/10 04:27 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
RMepstead Offline
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Incidentally Buddy - if you've struggled to use the KN7000, the operating system of the Tyros is even more complicated, and the sounds and range of rhythms no different/better IMO...
Rog
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#70060 - 03/24/10 08:11 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
BUDDY....

The Technics KN7000.... IMO they are a superior arranger keyboard. I have two. One in my home and the other at my gig.

There is no way I would part with mine. I strongly suggest that you keep yours and spend some time working with all the amazing attributes the machine offers.

Everyone here on this forum will be on the ready to assist when that is needed.

Elizabeth

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#70061 - 03/24/10 05:03 PM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 1097
Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hi Buddy,

I agree with Elizabeth's comments. I've had my Tyros 3 for a year now and have received a lot (and I mean a lot of help) from friends on this site and members of the Yamaha Forum without whom, I would have sent it back to the shop within days of the purchase - and even after all this time, I am still struggling with the absolutely horrendous operating system. It has a digital sound system which in certain areas (i.e: pianos, strings, ballads) are better than the KN7, but if the KN7 is used with my Yamaha Stagepas 300 speaker system, there is very little difference between them.

Because of the complicated way in which styles, patterns and voices are saved, The Tyros 3 is VERY TIME CONSUMING and at times embarrassingly unreliable in loading songs etc. and this is why I still use my KN7 for gigs. It is quicker to name, save and load, Easier by far to operate, and is most definitely more reliable.

If I had to make a choice, the KN7 would win "hands down" as the saying goes.

Audrey



[This message has been edited by Audrey Turner (edited 03-24-2010).]

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#70062 - 03/25/10 03:50 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4028
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
All of the opinions posted about the Kn7000 and the Tyros 3 are based on a certain type of music and the player’s age and ability, using that criteria I must fully agree. Not to be misunderstood – I too love the Kn7 but I feel my opinion should based on a different criteria based on owning every Technics keyboard from the Kn1000 and every Yamaha keyboard from the Psr2100 right through the Tyros 1, Tyros 2 and now the Tyros 3.

My first question – Why are the majority of younger musicians/keyboard players playing Korgs, Yamaha, and Rolands and not Technics?
This past week I had a Kn7000 and my Tyros 3 playing through my new Bose compact PA side by side without any adjustments. All three of us are musicians/keyboard players we agreed that they were both great keyboards but very different in their sound. The Kn7 being much thinner in sound than the Tyros 3 – they are two different animals.

I quote from my friends post, Incidentally Buddy - if you've struggled to use the KN7000, the operating system of the Tyros is even more complicated, and the sounds and range of rhythms no different/better IMO...
Rog
Roger is correct, but why. If the Kn7 has 102 ways to do a job the Tyros 3 has 402 to do the same job with many more options. The laptop computer that I have since 2001 is not as complicated as the laptops they are offering today -- and that is because they offer so much more. I do feel some of the programs in the old laptop are easier to work with.

Quoting form Audrey’s post, “Because of the complicated way in which styles, patterns and voices are saved, The Tyros 3 is VERY TIME CONSUMING and at times embarrassingly unreliable in loading songs etc. and this is why I still use my KN7 for gigs. It is quicker to name, save and load, Easier by far to operate, and is most definitely more reliable.

I agree the Kn7000 is one reliable keyboard – but I do not understand the rest – I use my computer to load everything including my styles and songs on to a memory stick (stick drive) and simply play them on the Tyros 3 directly without loading them in the keyboard.

The Tyros 3 can --
1-Compression and EQ to your sound, both offer many, many options and more than one can be saved for quick recall.
2-It has the option to bring you back to any one of 4 different places when you are playing a midi file. You go back and repeat just by pressing one of four buttons
3-The amount of support for the keyboard is fantastic.
4-The amount of free styles available is staggering. I have aprox. 400 user styles on my memory stick that can be called easily by pressing a registration. (Memory panel)
5-The music finder offers many features – styles can be called by tempo, name, style or gender. When you place a code letter with a style you can do a search by typing the code letter and all the songs with that letter appear. What a fantastic option when you're looking for Latin music or favorites or specialty songs -- the music list is limited to aprox. 2,000 songs. And it set your style and tempo and intro and variation that you have chosen. There is so much more but let me stop here.

No need for more here this Tyros 3 keyboard is great. Does this take away from the beloved Kn7000, it is a different animal offering something very special – and that is why I will have one in my home when it becomes available, it is one great keyboard.

Buddy my advice to you is to keep your Kn7 keyboard and if have need for what the newer keyboards are offering buy it. If dollars are an issue sell it so that you will have the means to purchase that which you feel will do the job. There are some that have regretted selling their Kn7000 keyboards, I am one of them but I could not go ahead and miss what the newer keyboards are offering, I need to move on.

No keyboard has it all so we must decide on all the options offered. Moving ahead will as it always does create a new learning curve. Is it worth the effort? You must answer that one.

IMHO, John C.

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#70063 - 03/25/10 03:57 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
The Saint Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 623
Loc: Sydney Australia
Hi Buddy,
As above in two words (three) Technics ....User friendly, end of story.
Not failing to recognise that there are other quality boards available, but what price change, ( PA2Xpro, Audya, S910, etc.(which has a myriad of reports, pro and con).
A bit off topic, but as far as value is concerned, I believe the English pound is still 16 ounces??????
Ray


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#70064 - 03/25/10 04:02 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
The Saint Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 623
Loc: Sydney Australia
Hi Bruno,
Very good post, and hard to disagree with!!
Ray


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#70065 - 03/25/10 07:16 AM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
Part of the answer to John C's question, "Why are the younger players not playing Technics"..... Because they are no longer available, that is at least one reason why.

BTW, John C. Why are you selling your Tyros 3?

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#70066 - 03/25/10 07:31 PM Re: KN7000 for Sale - Hardly Used
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4028
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Quote:
Originally posted by etwo4788:
Part of the answer to John C's question, "Why are the younger players not playing Technics"..... Because they are no longer available, that is at least one reason why.

Sorry, But I was referring to the last four to five years and they have been available during this period. John C.

BTW, John C. Why are you selling your Tyros 3?

I need to be honest to answer your second question. When the Kn7000 was brought to my home and I played it through my new Bose compact PA I became excited, the sound was great so I put the Tyos3 for sale.

There are two musicians who have asked me to form a trio, I said yes and thought I would use the Kn7. After two days of trying to program the Kn7000 I turned back to the Tyros 3. I made another discovery in setting the compressor and the EQ, and I made some adjustments in the styles. I was able to get styles for every song and every category. When I used my setup with the trio the sound and ease of operation (getting to all the songs, tempos, Intros, styles, and keys) was good, very good.

My love affair for the Kn7000 is not over -- when I play the great trumpet and the piano it brings me back to where it all started. I want to buy one, but that does not change my reasons for wanting to use the Tyros 3 on a job. The options and style availability outweigh the Kn7000 for my use.

As far as buddy goes I am committed to help him in whatever direction he chooses, I find him to be the kind of man that I will enjoy making a relationship with. Soft, kind, has an open mind and we are in the same place with our religious beliefs.

John C.



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