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#498383 - 06/09/20 01:19 PM Now We Wait
Dnj Offline
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wait for what is to come next....what will the manufacturers come out with next.
have they listened to the players needs and wants,?....
Will it be something totally new or same old reused
parts in a new coat?
will it target the old fogies genre or the new generation of music?
will the old players remain in the arranger kb game at all?
will a Hybrid Arranger/Workstation synth be evolving? or are they leaning more toward DAW style interaction with controllers?
Time will tell...and I'm gonna sit back and watch what happens..

Thoughts?


Edited by Dnj (06/20/20 05:28 AM)

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#498386 - 06/09/20 01:23 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Dnj]
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I'm not waiting. I'm enjoying! There are so many great choices right now!
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#498391 - 06/09/20 01:37 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By DonM
I'm not waiting. I'm enjoying! There are so many great choices right now!


I Know that Don I've tried them all.....
I am hard to please although Yamaha honestly
thru the years was with me the longest out of them all..
this quarantine period really gave me time to rethink my direction.
No harm in waiting, who knows what is on the horizon. confused1

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#498394 - 06/09/20 01:48 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Dnj]
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Wait for what?

Every manufacturer has a money making line up.. There isn't anything that can get better.. just fix the bugs (easy update fixes)

Yamaha has the Genos and SX x900, and when new models do appear..it will be repackaged just like Yamaha always does.. The Montage and the low end version DX?? will keep Yamaha people happy. Korg will continue the repackaged PA series, and people will buy it.. and their high end workstation will continue with the same features..

Roland has more money making lines than anyone.. Fantom will dominate,

Their effects, replicate keyboards, digital pianos will continue to be big,, And the inexpensive EA7 will line their pockets...so they don't need a new top model arranger (PS: it is in the making) smile


Like I said... wait for what?

Donny pick any of the keyboards you have tried... stay with it and learn the dang thing... then maybe you will find what you are looking for grin


Edited by Fran Carango (06/09/20 01:52 PM)
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#498399 - 06/09/20 02:12 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Dnj]
DonM Offline
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I think Korg may be working on something totally different. Just some vibes I've picked up, nothing concrete.
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#498413 - 06/09/20 11:07 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Dnj]
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It would be neat if they were to finally integrate Steven Kay's "Karma." Or at least SOMETHING, with some degree of randomness.

I'm not talking about playing random wrong notes. Just some paramaters to humanize the arranger's performance. As far as I know, none of the brands have ever attempted this. If it sounded a little different every time, or "evolved" in some random way, I might be tempted to keep practicing, just to see what happened next. And obviously a way to turn it off, for studio musicians or live performers.

When the instrument inspires you to keep playing, you know that you have something very special!


Edited by TedS (06/09/20 11:07 PM)

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#498419 - 06/10/20 05:31 AM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: TedS]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By TedS
It would be neat if they were to finally integrate Steven Kay's "Karma." Or at least SOMETHING, with some degree of randomness.

I'm not talking about playing random wrong notes. Just some paramaters to humanize the arranger's performance. As far as I know, none of the brands have ever attempted this. If it sounded a little different every time, or "evolved" in some random way, I might be tempted to keep practicing, just to see what happened next. And obviously a way to turn it off, for studio musicians or live performers.

When the instrument inspires you to keep playing, you know that you have something very special!


Ted now the game has changed drastically for many players between,
semi/full retirement, old age, Covid 19 virus fears, less and less scared audiences coming out, generation gaps regarding genre
of music styles performing live, some will return performing live due to financial needs, some will not and pursue another musical direction & just play at home. Some are fed up, some are tired, some don't care, everything changes and you have to adapt with it.

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#498420 - 06/10/20 05:45 AM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Wait for what?

Every manufacturer has a money making line up.. There isn't anything that can get better.. just fix the bugs (easy update fixes)

Yamaha has the Genos and SX x900, and when new models do appear..it will be repackaged just like Yamaha always does.. The Montage and the low end version DX?? will keep Yamaha people happy. Korg will continue the repackaged PA series, and people will buy it.. and their high end workstation will continue with the same features..

Roland has more money making lines than anyone.. Fantom will dominate,

Their effects, replicate keyboards, digital pianos will continue to be big,, And the inexpensive EA7 will line their pockets...so they don't need a new top model arranger (PS: it is in the making) smile


Like I said... wait for what?

Donny pick any of the keyboards you have tried... stay with it and learn the dang thing... then maybe you will find what you are looking for grin


Fran a very grim, picture indeed you have painted. It might be the only way to go in the end.... But for now, I would think waiting a few months to see what turns up is a prudent choice for now.
My Novation Launchkey MKIII keyboard controller &
Mixcraft pro9 DAW is more then enough to keep me busy
and interested in musical creation projects for now.
I've went the synth workstation route a few times
but it always left me yearning for my arranger kb.
Too much work and doesn't for fill my heart and desire
to play as an arranger does. I look forward one more time to see the next generation on arrangers and hopefully will
get excited enough to give it a go again with one of them.
I wish I could be like you with your never ending love affair with your Roland G70....when I bought mine as you know I was doing
a super busy gig schedule years ago and the weight and size
was a deterrent for me not the sound, navigation, styles,
features etc,. I did however always enjoyed playing it
and quite honestly if one passed my way again in mint condition at the right price I would possibly give it another chance in my current situation in my home studio. But they are almost impossible to come by as you well know. Anyway wait and see is the recipe for now.

Stay safe

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#498451 - 06/10/20 12:50 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Now we wait for what is to come next....


Actually, I don't have high expectations or hopes when it comes to what's on the stairs anymore. 😱
What's coming, it's coming, and the manufacturers are doing what they can to get us, ie the easy-going customers to bite the bait.
For my own part, I actually think Genos is more than good enough, and if I acquire a PA4X-76 to top the fun, I have most likely met my needs for the rest of my life.
I have reached the point in life where new things are not necessarily better than what you already have as long as it fulfills the needs you have.
For my part, the equipment I have is most likely capable of much much more than what I am able to get out of it... 🎵🎵🎹🎹🎵🎵
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#498453 - 06/10/20 01:11 PM Re: Now We WAIT ! [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By Gunnar Jonny
Originally Posted By Dnj
Now we wait for what is to come next....


Actually, I don't have high expectations or hopes when it comes to what's on the stairs anymore. 😱
What's coming, it's coming, and the manufacturers are doing what they can to get us, ie the easy-going customers to bite the bait.
For my own part, I actually think Genos is more than good enough, and if I acquire a PA4X-76 to top the fun, I have most likely met my needs for the rest of my life.
I have reached the point in life where new things are not necessarily better than what you already have as long as it fulfills the needs you have.
For my part, the equipment I have is most likely capable of much much more than what I am able to get out of it... 🎵🎵🎹🎹🎵🎵


Like the surfers say "just One more WAVE will be the Big one"
I am poised and waiting for whats next on the market....
But honestly if I had to choose today
and knew no more arrangers would ever be made
it would be a SX900 or TOTL Genos Yamaha.



Edited by Dnj (06/10/20 01:14 PM)

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