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#496081 - 04/30/20 06:46 PM Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ)
zuki Offline
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Russ, here's a better arrangement on that passage. I added a few chords of my own at the change...Do you have a chart to check out? Thx, Jim


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaq81YNGuc


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#496091 - 05/01/20 05:22 AM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: zuki]
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Originally Posted By zuki
Russ, here's a better arrangement on that passage. I added a few chords of my own at the change...Do you have a chart to check out? Thx, Jim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaaq81YNGuc




Jim great job your really have that Korg Pa3x sounding excellent...
more more more.. headphone

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#496097 - 05/01/20 06:55 AM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: zuki]
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Nice Jim! I can see why you like the PA-3X

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#496161 - 05/01/20 05:37 PM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: jingleman]
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Nice sound to this tune, Jim ...
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#496165 - 05/01/20 08:13 PM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: zuki]
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Thanks everyone. I will post more on my YouTube channel in the days ahead for anyone interested.
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#496217 - 05/02/20 01:01 PM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: zuki]
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Jim, it is the walking base, including the correct passing note that is difficult to emulate with an arranger. Nothing wrong with your changes on this one, just a missing bass change that you'd have to play manually.

Good work. This issue is why I stopped using arrangers for live play.

Lets visit as soon as it's safe.


Russ


Edited by captain Russ (05/02/20 01:01 PM)

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#496252 - 05/03/20 03:07 AM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: captain Russ]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By captain Russ
Jim, it is the walking base, including the correct passing note that is difficult to emulate with an arranger. Nothing wrong with your changes on this one, just a missing bass change that you'd have to play manually.

Good work. This issue is why I stopped using arrangers for live play.

Lets visit as soon as it's safe.


Russ


Walking bass on an arranger can be a problem. It really needs to be played manually with most arrangers. I remember playing Masquerade on an arranger and the walking bass line was an issue. I wish there was a way to make the left hand chord bassline simply move to the closest chordal bass note rather than the root of the chord. That would implement walking bass pretty well I think against the auto accompaniment. Being a computer programmer myself that would seem like a relatively easy function to add.

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#496322 - 05/03/20 12:17 PM Re: Blackbird 2 (Revised for Russ) [Re: zuki]
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The gold standard would be to play bass on the pedals, organ-style. Of course this takes a lot of training and skill. Lowrey organs make this approach a little easier by letting the players override the arranger for a couple of measures, and then the arranger automatically resumes control of the bass pattern.

Another approach would be to record ONLY the bass line (or part of it) as a single track MIDI, and then play the rest of the arrangement over it. This would require an arranger capable of playing MIDI and style chord recognition at the same time. Most cannot do this. You might be able to do it with multipads.

A third approach might be to pre-record all of the chord changes in a chord sequencer, and play the bass and melody "live." Good discussion!

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