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#491679 - 03/16/20 06:38 AM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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#491720 - 03/16/20 11:57 AM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Just a question:
That being the case,might there be some anti-bodies produced to lessen the severity?
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#491723 - 03/16/20 12:14 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Sure hope so Rikki. My daughter (RN), says the emergency rooms are packed with paranoid people coming in. They can't keep up with the flow (Christ Hospital). She has had one case so far. Hi Zuki, It appears hysteria has taken over. Couldn’t believe my ears the other day, my son was up for my birthday. The country is setting up with pop up clinics all over the place, for people to be able to get tested, his comment was, wish I could get tested. He’s in his mid 40’s, healthy as a horse, no sign of any illness whatsoever, and he’d be happy to spend precious resources getting tested. ???? Really have to wonder what’s gone wrong with people, hoarding, getting unnecessary tests done when there’s nothing wrong with them and they have absolutely no reason to suspect that they could have it. Leaves the vunerable , even more vunverable. One of the big supermarket chains has announced shopping for the “elderly and disabled only “ between 7 am and 8 am to try and give them a chance to try and pick up some stuff that they need without being jostled by the crazy hoards. Even handing out care packages of essentials. Must be so frightening for the ones who don’t have family. No doubt the rest will follow.
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#491725 - 03/16/20 12:29 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Just a question:
That being the case,might there be some anti-bodies produced to of a plessen the severity? Hi Bernie, I haven’t had a chance to read all the articles, I was just in bed ready to go to sleep when this guy popped up on an interview. In a nutshell, he was talking about being able to use drugs that are already approved for use for other diseases, so not having to wait for trial testing of a NEW drug, which could take, goodness knows how long months ? years? The drugs he’s planning to use are already in use for other diseases, Igather mainly testing to see which combination of existing drugs works the best. Also not testing on people with just minor symptoms who are going to get over it anyway, but on people who are going to get seriously ill ie try and step in before they get so ill that they need respirators etc. These are apparently all pills, so he was talking about even your doctors maybe being able to hand them out. Let’s just all pray this eventuates, and the world starts getting back to normal. There’s a heap more articles, I just quickly looked up a couple and posted the links.
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#491747 - 03/16/20 04:31 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Of course, you realize that no medical professional would order a test for someone that is not symptomatic. Not only does this not make sense, but additionally, the test would probably not be covered by their medical insurance. Some one said Trump should have been tested right away, despite the fact that he has not shown any symptoms whatsoever, even after weeks passes since he was in the same room with someone that came down with the virus. This would be akin to having a cardiac cath because you are over 70 years old, but show no symptoms of heart disease - makes absolutely no sense at all. The president's physician is rated as one of the top docs in the nation - he knows what he is doing. As for the disease ramping up at an exponential rate, this is pretty much true with nearly all communicable diseases, but soon after reaching their peak, they tend to plummet until they pretty much go away, often because of the natural immune defenses developed within the human body after exposure. No one, at this time, knows when the disease will peak, no one can possibly prepare for a disease that has never occurred in the past, but each and every person can do their best, at all times, to prevent the spread of communicable diseases. Personal hygiene goes a long way in this, but other things such as distancing yourself from individuals that display symptoms, such as coughing, sneezing, runny nose, runny eyes, etc... can have a dramatic impact. It's just good common sense! Cheers, Gary 
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#491752 - 03/16/20 06:12 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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#491765 - 03/16/20 11:53 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Of course, you realize that no medical professional would order a test for someone that is not symptomatic. Not only does this not make sense, but additionally, the test would probably not be covered by their medical insurance. Some one said Trump should have been tested right away, despite the fact that he has not shown any symptoms whatsoever, even after weeks passes since he was in the same room with someone that came down with the virus. This would be akin to having a cardiac cath because you are over 70 years old, but show no symptoms of heart disease - makes absolutely no sense at all. The president's physician is rated as one of the top docs in the nation - he knows what he is doing. As for the disease ramping up at an exponential rate, this is pretty much true with nearly all communicable diseases, but soon after reaching their peak, they tend to plummet until they pretty much go away, often because of the natural immune defenses developed within the human body after exposure. No one, at this time, knows when the disease will peak, no one can possibly prepare for a disease that has never occurred in the past, but each and every person can do their best, at all times, to prevent the spread of communicable diseases. Personal hygiene goes a long way in this, but other things such as distancing yourself from individuals that display symptoms, such as coughing, sneezing, runny nose, runny eyes, etc... can have a dramatic impact. It's just good common sense! Cheers, Gary All prevention we do in Holand is aimed to keep that peek as low as possible.. because when we let it grow wildly, we know we will not have enough hospital beds and equipment to treat all those people with these specific breathing complaints.. This means the periode in which people get sick will last longer.. but its estimated that in total 40% of the people will get sick... its an airborne virus, we can not contain that as long as there is any contact between people..
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#491791 - 03/17/20 09:11 AM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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At least in UK We have a Prime-Minister with some sense.
People complain that the UK is not taking enough measures, but I think they have it right.
You will regret it... No doubt you are following your unelected overpaid EU masters that could not organise booze up in a brewery. Unlike a lot of other countries the UK does not panic, just knuckles down to get things done, see you on the other side. Bill Measures have been taken on a national level, not by Brussels. It‘s amazing how some people stay short-sighted despite conditions nearby in Italy. But have fun with your independence and exploding numbers, we‘ve closed most borders, which really seems to be necessary if others think full soccer stadiums are good for building up immunity of the population. You see, this is not only your business: if one country acts stupidly, it creates severe external effects for all countries that have travel connections. I‘ve read what British epidemiologists have said about Boris Johnson‘s ideas. (Regarding „the Bar“: This thread was about Corona. Nigel can shift it; as long as it‘s here, I‘ll answer here.) P.S.: You‘ve got 6.6 intensive care beds per 100,000 inhabitants in the UK. A very poor number. Don‘t complain in May...
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#491796 - 03/17/20 09:36 AM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
[Re: rikkisbears]
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According to the CDC, the incubation period for this disease is 5.1 days - not 14. Additionally, the test would not be positive until the patient displayed symptoms, according to WHO. The test involves swabbing the inside of the nasal cavity to determine the presence of specific antibodies. When I worked in Thoracic Surgery I was tested weekly using the same technique for Hospital Staphylococcus. The test required 48 hours of incubation in the lab for results. Now, I don't know if or why the president decided to close the Pandemic Agency - or if that was his call. But there are so many agencies in the US Government that are duplicates I suspect this may have been the reason - just no way to verify this. Lee, the ultraviolet rays of the sun does wonders for killing many diseases, hence the use of ultraviolet lights at the entrances of many medical institutions. Getting out in the sunshine is a good thing, and I do this as much as possible, even just to sit on a deck chair in sunshine and enjoy the warmth of old sol. Spring is in the air here in Maryland, robins cover my lawn daily, daffodils are in bloom as are crocus. I love this time of year!  Gary
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#491810 - 03/17/20 11:56 AM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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To "Walk Softly And Carry A Big Stick" seems sensible as long as the stick is big enough.
Bernie
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#491830 - 03/17/20 02:42 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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A Nurse friend just sent me this... Please read...
"I can't even begin to tell you how many patients are coming to the ER requesting COVID-19 testing that have little or no symptoms or proven exposure. If you really believe you could have it, stay home and self quarantine. Even if you DO have symptoms, you do NOT need testing or Emergency Room care unless your symptoms are severe and you are in significant distress! We simply do not have the resources to test or treat everyone. Masks are literally under lock and key and being rationed to healthcare providers!! We are short on gowns, goggles, hepa filters, and isolation rooms! You are endangering so many other citizens and staff members when you come to the ER for your completely manageable 102°F temperature or because you work with someone who knows someone who 'definitely has it.' STAY HOME UNLESS YOU ARE IN DISTRESS. If you ARE in distress, call 911 or call ahead to your local ER and seek immediate treatment. We know this is scary. We get it! Abusing the system is not helping the situation. Please be mindful of your community and your healthcare providers." Hi , Last place I would want to be is in an emergency room especially if I wasn’t sure , “do I feel sick ? or don’t I ? “ I think you’d know it if you had a temperature of a 110, coughing your lungs out and unable to breath. No doubt someone in that room could have it, and, after they’ve coughed all over you, chances are, you might actually get it too, Gee whiz, you haven’t wasted your trip to ER after all, you can now join the ranks of those , with it. Might have made more sense to stay at home and self isolate if not sure, and call an ambulance if things get bad. Really can’t believe people are so STUPID. Donny, I feel so sorry for these health workers who have to deal with this .
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#491852 - 03/17/20 06:58 PM
Re: Corona Virus Break thru, we may have found a cure.
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Personally I appreciate this going to the bar. Quite frankly most of what I've been reading has been pure nonsense.
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#492446 - 03/22/20 12:16 PM
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