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#48994 - 01/16/04 04:20 AM Techplus Club
Leo's Den Offline
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Yes, all Technics owners are sad, and at this time glad about the existence of this website. But can I urge all of you Technics piano, keyboard and organ players to join the Techplus Club run by Technote. It doesn't cost much, the magazine is superb - the best technical and musical support imaginable for Technics users, and we need it to continue now more than ever. So for those who don't know about it, or just haven't signed up yet, please, please do so. www.technote.com for further information.

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#48995 - 01/16/04 05:05 AM Re: Techplus Club
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thank's for appreciating the magazine contents, Leo

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#48996 - 01/16/04 05:40 AM Re: Techplus Club
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I want to add my full support to that of Leo and Alec. I have no connection whatever with Technote International or the Techplus publication. I've been a Techplus Club subscriber for quite some time. I've also been a subscriber for many years to other music magazines in the United States and here in the U.K. Without a doubt, the Techplus Club magazine is the finest and most helpful magazine I have ever purchased. It is THE ONLY magazine in my experience that is dedicated to explaining the intricacies of our modern keyboards in step-by-step fashion. For example, Phil Leader is writing a series of articles on the Composer at the moment. His articles are brilliant. We need this magazine to continue for many years to come.

Chuck

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#48997 - 01/16/04 09:10 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Wonder if technote are going to continue this service?
Well, I've got the magazines on scedual so far, always
looking forward to the next one.
GJ
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#48998 - 01/16/04 10:29 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Are back issues available...like way back pre 2000? These may someday be collectors items.

Larry Hawk
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#48999 - 01/16/04 03:18 PM Re: Techplus Club
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If there is the support for the Techplus Club to continue, then I am sure that Technote would want it to do so (and I have no connection with the firm or the magazine or the club other than as an ordinary, highly appreciative Techplus Club member). But like all such clubs, it needs enough members to keep it afloat - with ideas and active input I would never have mangaged to get started on my PR604 at all without them and a pile of magazines from the year before my subscription was taken out because the piano's user manual is so abysmal - unless as an aide-memoir when you already fundamentally know what the instrument is all about and what you are doing. So let's all use it as another way of sharing our Technics experience and using our instruments to their full capacity. There may be no new Technics instruments to look forward to, but it's going to take tyros like me several years to understand the power I already have in the PR604.

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#49000 - 01/16/04 03:24 PM Re: Techplus Club
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I have subscribed for a looooong time and have every issue for reference. It sure has assisted me in the use of my previous Technics organs and now the 7000. Hats off to Technote and of course our good buddy Alec.

Other than this forum this will be our only contact with information about our Technics instruments. If you have not subscribed, now is the time.

Fran in Florida

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#49001 - 01/16/04 03:36 PM Re: Techplus Club
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I miss the downloadable pdf magazine we could
find earlier.
Nothing wrong with the paperversion, far
better to have in hand and read from, but...
GJ
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#49002 - 01/17/04 11:08 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Hi all,

Regarding the magazine, I didn't realise there used to be a downloadable version. Was it just a fad or did they really want us to keep subscribing?

Anyway, it's a great magazine particuarly with the workshops. More hints and tips there - I really think that they deserve a gold star and an A+ for their work.

Comments anyone,

Mark

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#49003 - 01/18/04 02:40 AM Re: Techplus Club
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good that you like the workshops!

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#49004 - 01/18/04 10:19 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Who's to say Technote won't fold like Technics sold us down the river.

Larry Hawk
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#49005 - 01/18/04 10:59 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
Who's to say Technote won't fold like Technics sold us down the river.

Larry Hawk


Technics have not folded Larry, they have given you a market leading keyboard, are continuing support for a period providing spares and service for years to come and even given you a host of free styles ready converted as a going away present.

They have just decided not to produce another product. Since no one had a right to or contract for a follow up product I hardly see it as selling anyone down the river. It's disappointing, it's sad, it's the end of an era, the rest is economics, supply and demand and the modern world. I know a lot of people still enjoying their big GA organs with gusto. Technics pulled out of organs years ago, were these people still swearing by their organs now sold down the river?

As long as the demand is there I dare say Technote will satisfy what they can, the more negative attitudes take hold I dare say the sooner the demand may dissipate and the earlier we will all move on to new horizons.

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#49006 - 01/18/04 11:20 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Well said Alec....

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( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#49007 - 01/18/04 11:26 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Anyone who has been paying attention will know that Technote International isn't going out of business. The company has diversified its business over the years and now carries Yamaha, Casio, Roland and Hammond software, new amplification systems, Casio keyboards, drum kits, and wind instruments just to mention a few additions to their inventory. They have opened two outlets in the United States. It seems to me to be a forward looking company that responds to market trends. Technote International, like any sound business, appears to have a business plan that is working. I expect the company to shrug off the Matsushita announcement and move on to even bigger and better things for us in the future.

Chuck

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#49008 - 01/18/04 12:36 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Piper:
I expect the company to shrug off the Matsushita announcement and move on to even bigger and better things for us in the future.
Chuck


there's a new series of 7k/804/604 disks in preparation now, Chuck

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#49009 - 01/18/04 02:42 PM Re: Techplus Club
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I have also been a subscriber to the Technplus magazine for many years and have watched it grown into the magnificent magazine it is today.

Here are just a few things that make this particular magazine outstanding and they are:-

1) Any telephone call is answered personally and immediately (without having to go through a chain of button pressing). Any problems I have encountered have always been dealt with courteously and promptly.

2) The magazine has a 'Workshop' section explaining clearly both in text and pictures how to use the facilities offered on Tehnics organs, pianos and of course keyboards which like many other members I find invaluable.

3) There is a 'Letter' section whereby we learn from other people's problems or suggestions.

4) There are features on Artistes, new instruments and articles written by the likes of Peter Hayward, Alec Pagida etc., News Updates, 'pull-out' sheet music and much more. All for the price of £25.00 per year. To me the music alone is worth the
subscription.

At the risk of sounding like their sales person to anyone having doubts, I would say "subscribe today" - you will definitely not regret it.

Aud

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#49010 - 01/18/04 02:50 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Hi Alec,

Thanks for the "heads up" concerning the new disks. I've decided to stay with my KN6000 so the new disks will not help me. I have around 35 Technote and Music Disk Collection disks so I am not hurting for variety in terms of styles or registrations, and Gunnar and others have styles available on their websites should I decide to expand my collection. Just the three volume reprise set of KN5000 styles alone provides me with additional styles to choose from. The new disks for other instruments is yet another example of what I was saying in that Technote is here for the long haul.

I am going to watch the keyboard market closely from now on to see how the other manufacturers react to the withdrawal of Technics from the market. I suspect they will be looking for ways to capitalize on the void created by the demise of Technics. They know we Technics people will buy boards if the boards are comparable to what we currently have.

Thanks again, Alec, for your response.

Chuck

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#49011 - 01/18/04 03:30 PM Re: Techplus Club
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wrt Technote as a company, Aud, I couldn't agree more with your first point. It came as quite a shock to me to find a phone answered by a human being who knew what he was talking about, was courteous and helpful, and delivered what he promised even faster than promised. Oh, and let's remember that Techplus Club members get a discount on Technote products too. Leo.

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#49012 - 01/18/04 03:36 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Alex,

Your statement a few days ago:
"At last the announcement has been made in Japan and it's official - no more Technics."

Now your statement is:
"Technics have not folded"

Confused,
Larry Hawk
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#49013 - 01/18/04 03:41 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote from Chuck's post :
" I suspect they will be looking for ways to capitalize on the void created by the demise of Technics. They know we Technics people will buy boards if the boards are comparable to what we currently have."
I think any of the current keyboard manufacturers will need to do a great deal of work, if they wish to produce any instrument, which is as user friendly as the Technics range has always been.


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After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is Music.
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( especially when the music is played on a KN7000....)

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#49014 - 01/18/04 04:13 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
Alex,

Your statement a few days ago:
"At last the announcement has been made in Japan and it's official - no more Technics."

Now your statement is:
"Technics have not folded"

Confused,
Larry Hawk




last time I looked this was a keyboard forum. There will be no more Technics keyboards. (The rumours have been discussed for weeks, if you hadn't noticed.)
Folded means going bankrupt, no one has gone bankrupt.
Any more English lessons needed, I'm always glad to help out

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#49015 - 01/19/04 06:05 AM Re: Techplus Club
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In the United States folded means quit.
No English lessons needed.
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#49016 - 01/19/04 07:42 AM Re: Techplus Club
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In the wordbook I use to find out about stuff in the english language
"folded" meand a business who "went down" or did not manage to keep up
anymore. (No more money to continue)
GJ

Btw.
Techniocsplayer, I need plenty of lessons, just go ahead and teach me
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#49017 - 01/19/04 08:21 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
In the United States folded means quit.


well, the difference between a Tomayto and a Tomahto then Larry, because if I click fold in my microsoft thesaurus it clearly says "go bankrupt"


Quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Piper:
Just the three volume reprise set of KN5000 styles alone provides me with additional styles to choose from.


glad you liked those volumes, Chuck

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#49018 - 01/19/04 11:07 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Evidently, you guys never played poker in the US.

Larry Hawk
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#49019 - 01/20/04 03:52 AM Re: Techplus Club
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but you can fold in poker without going bust

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#49020 - 01/20/04 05:37 AM Re: Techplus Club
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My last comment on this :

Fold(ed) can mean many things.

I believe , and according to what Funk & Wagnalls believes...

1. Fold : as in fold a paper, sheets
2. Fold as in Quit,
3. Fold as in Cooking : Fold while mixing
4. Fold: A group of people
5. Fold: A pen for animals
6. Fold: To embrace

It is possible that fold is used as a slang word for "to fail finacially", but I was not referring to the slang word, rather the proper English meaning.

I was referring to #2 in the Dictionary
You were referring to slang

That's it for this English lesson.

Larry Hawk
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#49021 - 01/20/04 06:09 AM Re: Techplus Club
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well then the simple solution if you mean quit is to use quit, and not a word with a clear other meaning in reference to companies going bankrupt

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#49022 - 01/20/04 10:02 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by technicsplayer:


Any more English lessons needed, I'm always glad to help out


You can start by telling one to begin a sentence with a CAPITAL letter.


Anthony
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#49023 - 01/20/04 11:04 AM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
My last comment on this :

Fold(ed) can mean many things.

I believe , and according to what Funk & Wagnalls believes...

1. Fold : as in fold a paper, sheets
2. Fold as in Quit,
3. Fold as in Cooking : Fold while mixing
4. Fold: A group of people
5. Fold: A pen for animals
6. Fold: To embrace

It is possible that fold is used as a slang word for "to fail finacially", but I was not referring to the slang word, rather the proper English meaning.

I was referring to #2 in the Dictionary
You were referring to slang

That's it for this English lesson.

Larry Hawk
Quote:
Originally posted by lahawk:
My last comment on this :

Fold(ed) can mean many things.

I believe , and according to what Funk & Wagnalls believes...

1. Fold : as in fold a paper, sheets
2. Fold as in Quit,
3. Fold as in Cooking : Fold while mixing
4. Fold: A group of people
5. Fold: A pen for animals
6. Fold: To embrace

It is possible that fold is used as a slang word for "to fail finacially", but I was not referring to the slang word, rather the proper English meaning.

I was referring to #2 in the Dictionary
You were referring to slang

That's it for this English lesson.

Larry Hawk

O.K.chaps a lot of programmes give the user the option of UK English or US English. There is only one English language & that is English born & bred in England before America was even discovered. Any other language that pretends to be English is just slang.
If anyone really fancies a lesson in English Grammar then do yourself a favour write out a cheque, purchase a copy of the English Oxford Dictionary, then celebrate and treat the family to a night out at the theatre.

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#49024 - 01/20/04 12:12 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jupitar5:
You can start by telling one to begin a sentence with a CAPITAL letter.Anthony



I've always found accurate solutions to problems more appreciated on a forum

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#49025 - 01/20/04 12:24 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Oh DEAR Oh DEER
It was QUITE QUIET before QUIT,and the MINUTE I read that MINUTE I noticed a MINUTE spot. Should we SUBJECT this SUBJECT to a SPOT no one can SPOT or close this SUBJECT with a DOT on the DOT

Now that's plain English or is it my English plane
John

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#49026 - 01/20/04 12:25 PM Re: Techplus Club
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nice one...

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#49027 - 01/20/04 01:49 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Now I think I really need a new wordbook
and who knows how many lessons...
GJ

Foresten, jeg tror jeg begynner og bruke mitt
eget språk, så kan andre kjøpe ny ordbok
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#49028 - 01/20/04 02:32 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Goodness gracious folks,

We certainly have strayed far from the original topic haven't we? I've followed this topic (as I do all others) with a great deal of interest. Much has been said about the English language (its origin), word definitions, and even the suggestion to go out and buy the "English Oxford Dictionary" to learn English grammar. Alec said, ". . . accurate solutions to problems are more appreciated on a forum." I agree. And I want to add that fact and truth rather than opinion are more appreciated on this forum. With fact and truth in mind, let me make the following comments.

The English language as it is known and used in this day and age is a far cry from the language in its infancy in the 5th century, for it was in the 5th century that the Angles and Saxons, who migrated to the British Isles from present day Germany, Denmark, Holland, and Belgium, began to develop a language which became known as Old English. These early peoples spoke a tongue that was a mixture of Old Saxon and Old Frisian. The Viking settlers spoke a purely Scandinavian language and the Angles and Saxons incorporated a large body of Scandinavian words into the body of their budding language when the Vikings settled in the Isles. So the English language is not English at all ethnically speaking. It is an amalgamation of the Germanic, Frisian, Scandinavian, French, Latin, and Greek languages. It is a language that has been in a state of constant development since the early 5th century. That trend will continue into the future. Those are the facts! If you care to do your own research, may I suggest the Oxford Companion to British History would be a good place to start

And anyone who goes out and purchases a copy of the English Oxford Dictionary will NOT learn anything at all about grammar as alleged. Grammar is the study of the classes of words, their functions and relations in a sentence. A dictionary provides word definitions and other important information including pronunciation, syntactical and idiomatic uses, but will not teach you anything about grammar.

That's the truth!

Chuck

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#49029 - 01/21/04 12:02 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Piper:
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And anyone who goes out and purchases a copy of the English Oxford Dictionary will NOT learn anything at all about grammar as alleged. Grammar is the study of the classes of words, their functions and relations in a sentence. A dictionary provides word definitions and other important information including pronunciation, syntactical and idiomatic uses, but will not teach you anything about grammar.

I agree fully with what you quote and have read the same article myself also others that appertain to the same subject of which some relate to an age which predates further back in time than you quote.
I feel this is not the place to have a discussion on the very complex subject of English history .
My post was purely pointing out the differences between the correct English and US English of which the main difference being is, the use of incorrect spelling in US English.
Grammar = Words = Spelling = Without the correct spelling of words grammatical structure cannot be attained.
The world authority on words is Oxford English Dictionary.

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#49030 - 01/21/04 12:43 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Good Evening Johnnie,

With all due respect to you , Sir, your equation is grossly incorrect. Spelling has nothing whatever to do with grammar. I can misspell all ten words in a ten-word sentence and the sentence will be grammatically perfect as long as my subject, predicate, adjectives, verbs, adverbs etc. are in their proper place in relation to each other within the sentence in accordance with the accepted rules of grammar. You may not grasp what I have written because the words are so poorly spelled, but that does not detract one iota from the correctness of my grammar.

As for the Oxford English Dictionary being the sole authority for the English language, please be aware that in addition to the Oxford version, Webster's Dictionary and Collin's Dictionary are recognized around the world as authoritative sources for the correct spelling and pronunciation of words of the English language. As I said in my earlier remarks, the English language is a developing, and very much alive, language. If the Americans choose to spell a word differently than the version in the Oxford book, so be it. It does not make the American version wrong - just different.

And as you suggested, this is not the forum for a discussion of history, nor is it a forum for the discussion of the Englsih language. But since you and others raised the issue in the first place, I simply wanted to state the facts and truth rather than personal opinion as many have done here. And with that I end any further comment on the matter.

Yours Graciously,

Chuck

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#49031 - 01/21/04 02:42 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Posts: 562
Loc: England
Quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Piper:
Good Evening Johnnie,

As for the Oxford English Dictionary being the sole authority for the English language.

If the Americans choose to spell a word differently than the version in the Oxford book, so be it. It does not make the American version wrong - just different.

Dear Chuck
You go to great lengths attempting to be a grammarian by trying to teach me the rules of grammar, but you cannot even read my words correctly, had you have done so you would not have misquoted me.
Nowhere did I say that Oxford English Dictionary is the
sole authority for the English language I said
quote" The World authority on words is Oxford English Dictionary "unquote, and it is recognised as such.I own all the Dictionaries that you quote also Longmans.
I also take issue with you on your thesis that if an American spells a word I.E.color instead of colour then in English it cannot be considered to be spelt correctly,
but I agree it is different.
Yours Sincerely
Johnnie
PS I will now let this thread rest in peace

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#49032 - 01/21/04 03:23 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Please do Johnnie, I am not here for an english lesson.

Fran in Florida

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#49033 - 01/21/04 05:00 PM Re: Techplus Club
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But Fran, I find it rather fascinating. Sure beats the ‘my keyboard is better than your’s’ syndrome found on other forums. Don’t you think?

Just plain Doug who shaded his english on the farm.
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#49034 - 01/21/04 09:46 PM Re: Techplus Club
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Quoted from Chuck:
"...I can misspell all ten words in a ten-word sentence and the sentence will be grammatically perfect.." end quote.

This really make me happy, thank's Chuck

I too find it really interesting, but I agree very
much in that this may be the wrong forum to have this
conversation.
Anyway, looking to other posts, we're not alone regarding
to be offtopic
GJ
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