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#483186 - 12/08/19 02:35 PM Made up my mind: Genos for sale
DonM Offline
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I gave it a real chance, and am overall very pleased with it. Just not quite pleased enough to prefer it to Korg PA4X FOR MY NEEDS at this time. I didn't think the space on the bandstand would be a problem, but it turns out it is.
I took two weeks getting acquainted with it and setting it all up, then used it two weekends on the job. Sounds great, plays great, and I'm glad I bought it and tried it. But it's available.
Also the transmission is going out of my Expedition so I can use the money for that.
Send me a private message if you are interested.
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#483190 - 12/08/19 02:55 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I gave it a real chance, and am overall very pleased with it. Just not quite pleased enough to prefer it to Korg PA4X FOR MY NEEDS at this time. I didn't think the space on the bandstand would be a problem, but it turns out it is.
I took two weeks getting acquainted with it and setting it all up, then used it two weekends on the job. Sounds great, plays great, and I'm glad I bought it and tried it. But it's available.
Also the transmission is going out of my Expedition so I can use the money for that.
Send me a private message if you are interested.


Wait to you see that price tag… The cheapest price I got for my 03 Ford SUV was $1,700.. Used R and R.
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#483192 - 12/08/19 03:02 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Don...I must admit I'm a little disappointed the Genos didn't work out. I thought the "Double Dons" playing a Genos gig together would be quite a show smile
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#483197 - 12/08/19 03:34 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Hi Don, a little surprised but I suppose as you say it's what fits ones needs the best.

I've never seen a Pa4x before but it must be one hell of a instrument. Actually, no I did see it briefly in the summer someone played it on stage after my dad's act (which I assisted) but I used my trusty Pa900 when I still had it.

But didn't Jeremy suggest in the coming months that there will be two new Korgs available, not part of the Pa series but something very different. Very interesting times!


Edited by DannyUK (12/08/19 03:34 PM)

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#483199 - 12/08/19 03:53 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Much as I'd like to have a Genos... I'm taking myself out of the market. Sorry it didn't fit your needs, Don.

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#483200 - 12/08/19 03:53 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: jingleman]
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Originally Posted By jingleman
Don...I must admit I'm a little disappointed the Genos didn't work out. I thought the "Double Dons" playing a Genos gig together would be quite a show smile
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#483204 - 12/08/19 04:20 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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If I'm still around, I would sure look at a new Korg, but even if they announced it in January, it would be several months before it would be available, and a few more to get the bugs out.
At least I never put the Genos logo by my name! smile
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#483213 - 12/08/19 04:34 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
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At least I never put the Genos logo by my name! smile


Looks like my logo disappeared also..

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#483215 - 12/08/19 04:57 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj


Looks like my logo disappeared also..


Uh oh ... 😳😳
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#483219 - 12/08/19 05:35 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DannyUK]
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Originally Posted By DannyUK

But didn't Jeremy suggest in the coming months that there will be two new Korgs available, not part of the Pa series but something very different. Very interesting times!


Yes, quite intriguing. Maybe he’s not talking arrangers.
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#483220 - 12/08/19 05:41 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Hi Don,
sorry to hear Genos wasn’t quite right for you.
Are you going back to using your Roland at work?

I think I read PA1000 didn’t work out either, did it have semi weighted keys too?
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#483221 - 12/08/19 05:54 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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I will use either the Roland or the PA4X. This week I'll be using both, as I have to be set up in two rooms the same day.
I didn't get along with the PA1000 very well. I had the PA900 for quite a while and liked it a lot.
I can still use the keys on the 4X, but by the end of the night my wrists hurt. I'll take pills for now. smile
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#483222 - 12/08/19 05:55 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Don and Pa4x perfect together.. Except for the keybed..


Edited by Dnj (12/08/19 06:17 PM)

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#483223 - 12/08/19 06:11 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
DonM Offline
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It's like women. In the words of a country song, "Big, little, short or tall, wish I could have kept 'em all, I loved them every one."
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#483224 - 12/08/19 06:26 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I had the PA900 for quite a while and liked it a lot.


Still liking mine ...
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#483231 - 12/08/19 07:26 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
I will use either the Roland or the PA4X. This week I'll be using both, as I have to be set up in two rooms the same day.
I didn't get along with the PA1000 very well. I had the PA900 for quite a while and liked it a lot.
I can still use the keys on the 4X, but by the end of the night my wrists hurt. I'll take pills for now. smile



Hi Don,
Is a controller keyboard totally out of the question? You enjoy the Pa4x so much, surely there must be some way around it.
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#483238 - 12/08/19 08:11 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
DonM Offline
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I have used controller keyboard with modules several times, Ketron Midjay, Roland BK7m, Ketron SD40, and always find there is too much stuff to deal with--extra cables, power supplies, screens, etc.
I would really like to keep everything in one package, one keyboard.
I like my setup and adding another keyboard to the Korg would complicate that.
But to answer your question, yes I have thought of it.
I can use the PA4X o.k. still; but not sure how much longer. We'll see how the fingers and wrists hold up.
There are no bad choices, just some that fit better.
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#483242 - 12/08/19 08:27 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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You liked your pa900; what about a return to a pa3x (if you had one), or does it have same keybed feel as 4x?


Edited by sparky589 (12/08/19 08:44 PM)
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#483245 - 12/08/19 08:37 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Don, Have you ever tried tucking a reeeeeealy narrow controller under the PA4x? It'd hardly be noticeable, both sets of keys would be really close - there's no extra audio wires, or pedals needed - just a single midi cable. Sustain, breaks etc - all controlled by the 4x. The Korg might even power the controller via usb. As much as you use your left hand for bends, and such - this would give you the same basic hand position. You'd also have a full keyboard to play intros and endings on, or just to noodle 'round before you pick a song. You wouldn't even have to write, or edit a single Performance (registration). It's food for thought.
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#483246 - 12/08/19 08:57 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: sparky589]
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Originally Posted By sparky589
You liked your pa900; what about a return to a pa3x (if you had one), or does it have same keybed feel as 4x?


Same keys

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#483247 - 12/08/19 09:46 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
DonM Offline
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I will look into a controller. Probably have a couple around.
Thanks.
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#483253 - 12/09/19 05:23 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By DonM
I will look into a controller. Probably have a couple around.
Thanks.


your not gonna add more gear wires to your setup.....
especially for two gig setups..but you knew that .. wink

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#483254 - 12/09/19 05:33 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Wait, so there are now two preowned GENOS available for sale? Dnj's and DonM's? Did these go back to Frank?

I may be interested in one.
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#483255 - 12/09/19 05:37 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: kbrkr]
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is this what they call "The silly season" ? smoke

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#483256 - 12/09/19 05:43 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By DonM
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At least I never put the Genos logo by my name! smile


Looks like my logo disappeared also..


😮😱
Donny, do the new logo mean that you're going or has gone back to the 'Baby Genos' to test it a bit further while waiting for the coming Korg models?

🎵🎵🎵🎹🎵🎵🎵

This song is not about arrangers, but somehow the title come into my mind....
A very delightful version if I may say so, and Billy Preston make the organ sound heavenly.

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#483257 - 12/09/19 05:47 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Donny has changed his "Logo" again. Did anyone else notice? We need to rename him "The Chameleon." LOL!

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#483258 - 12/09/19 05:50 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: kbrkr]
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Originally Posted By kbrkr
Wait, so there are now two preowned GENOS available for sale? Dnj's and DonM's? Did these go back to Frank?

I may be interested in one.



No & No to answer your question

BUt just call Frank for a great deal anyway..

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#483260 - 12/09/19 05:51 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Impuls]
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I wouldn't say its "silly". An instrument is a very personal thing and you really have to try it on like a fine suit to see if its comfortable, fits correctly, you look good, and will wear over time. I can't explain it, there are lots of variables that go into it. I'm sure some guitarists can add some insight as most of the guitarists I know have at least a dozen guitars. Some for a specific song! Keyboards are almost the same. I have a Band Keyboard, a MP3/Backing Track Keyboard, and I'm now looking for another keyboard for Style backing in the Genos. Maybe the Genos can replace my NORD, but I won't know until I use it on a gig or two and go through all the setups like Don did.


Edited by kbrkr (12/09/19 05:52 AM)
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#483261 - 12/09/19 05:54 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Originally Posted By Gunnar Jonny
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By DonM
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At least I never put the Genos logo by my name! smile


Looks like my logo disappeared also..


😮😱
Donny, does the new logo mean that you're going back to the
"Baby Genos" to test it a much more further?


Yes to answer your question Gunnar
Genos is no longer in my studio.

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#483265 - 12/09/19 06:28 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Dnj]
W Tracy Parnell Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Yes to answer your question Gunnar
Genos is no longer in my studio.


surprised surprisedsurprised

Speaking of better than watching TV...
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#483275 - 12/09/19 08:09 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Dnj]
DonM Offline
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By DonM
I will look into a controller. Probably have a couple around.
Thanks.


your not gonna add more gear wires to your setup.....
especially for two gig setups..but you knew that .. wink

Donny's went back to Sweetwater. Mine is for sale at a really great price.
Send me a message if you are interested.
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#483276 - 12/09/19 08:23 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By DonM
I will look into a controller. Probably have a couple around.
Thanks.


your not gonna add more gear wires to your setup.....
especially for two gig setups..but you knew that .. wink

Donny's went back to Sweetwater. Mine is for sale at a really great price.
Send me a message if you are interested.

Donny, I think there’s a lot to like about the SX900...good luck. Don...if you want your controller back, let me know
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#483278 - 12/09/19 08:33 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: jingleman]
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Mitch,..I have a much better deeper OS study & experience
with Genos this last month here in the studio
compared to only 3hrs with the SX900.

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#483280 - 12/09/19 08:43 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM

Donny's went back to Sweetwater. Mine is for sale at a really great price.


I have a fried at FedEx, and she said they are leaving a truck parked outside Donny's house until after Christmas .... just to save on gas.
smile
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#483281 - 12/09/19 08:47 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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I feel really bad when the trucks pass my house without stopping. frown
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#483282 - 12/09/19 08:49 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By DonM

Donny's went back to Sweetwater. Mine is for sale at a really great price.


I have a fried at FedEx, and she said they are leaving a truck parked outside Donny's house until after Christmas .... just to save on gas.
smile


What is a FRIED?

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#483283 - 12/09/19 08:49 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Me too! Here's a shot of how close my 4X sits to the controller (SV-1) keys. I'm not suggesting you get a weighted controller - just use as a location reference. With a thinner controller ( like most are) you'd even be 3-4 inches closer to the top keybed.


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#483284 - 12/09/19 08:50 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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I don’t understand. Returning a Genos and replace it with a sx900??? I thought the Genos was the best arranger you ever owned.

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#483288 - 12/09/19 08:52 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: FransN]
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Originally Posted By FransN
I don’t understand. Returning a Genos and replace it with a sx900??? I thought the Genos was the best arranger you ever owned.

That's the OTHER Donny, DNJ.
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#483289 - 12/09/19 08:53 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Yes I know you didn’t replace it with a sx900 and said it was the best arranger you ever owned.


Edited by FransN (12/09/19 08:55 AM)

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#483290 - 12/09/19 08:54 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Paul Reiser once said something like: "Men aren't interested in what's on TV - we're interested in WHAT ELSE is on"
True?
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#483292 - 12/09/19 08:55 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Who is Paul Reiser what arranger KB does he play confused1

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#483293 - 12/09/19 08:55 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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He had a sexy tv wife.
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#483295 - 12/09/19 08:58 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
He had a sexy tv wife.



and a bottle of blue pills

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#483300 - 12/09/19 09:02 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Uncle Dave]
DonM Offline
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Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Me too! Here's a shot of how close my 4X sits to the controller (SV-1) keys. I'm not suggesting you get a weighted controller - just use as a location reference. With a thinner controller ( like most are) you'd even be 3-4 inches closer to the top keybed.

My setup has a custom shelf on the top tier. It holds my laptop, power supplies, recorder and often a tiny mixer. I want to keep that. Don't want things too high so my adoring fans can see me. smile I did use two keyboards for many years.
I will experiment with a small controller, but probably after the Christmas season. Too busy to do much right now except play.
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#483303 - 12/09/19 09:20 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Don already has a keyboard feel he likes,, and he can use it as a controller with the Korg... The E-A7 is perfect.
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#483305 - 12/09/19 09:58 AM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Fran Carango]
DonM Offline
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Don already has a keyboard feel he likes,, and he can use it as a controller with the Korg... The E-A7 is perfect.

I'm thinking hard about doing that. Best of both worlds.
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#483389 - 12/09/19 04:11 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
Originally Posted By FransN
I don’t understand. Returning a Genos and replace it with a sx900??? I thought the Genos was the best arranger you ever owned.

That's the OTHER Donny, DNJ.


Donny has an evil twin who returns all the keyboards? That would explain a lot. Seriously, about five minutes ago he was mad because everybody was calling the SX900 the "Baby Genos" and advising them how much better the Genos sounded. Also, when he had the SX900, he stated that it was not a "professional" keyboard. Did the first payment on the Genos come in or what? Another thing I have wondered in all seriousness-isn't there a limit to what you can send back at Sweetwater in good conscience?


Edited by W Tracy Parnell (12/09/19 04:11 PM)
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#483394 - 12/09/19 04:37 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: DonM]
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#483396 - 12/09/19 04:43 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
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Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Originally Posted By DonM
Originally Posted By FransN
I don’t understand. Returning a Genos and replace it with a sx900??? I thought the Genos was the best arranger you ever owned.

That's the OTHER Donny, DNJ.


Donny has an evil twin who returns all the keyboards? That would explain a lot. Seriously, about five minutes ago he was mad because everybody was calling the SX900 the "Baby Genos" and advising them how much better the Genos sounded. Also, when he had the SX900, he stated that it was not a "professional" keyboard. Did the first payment on the Genos come in or what? Another thing I have wondered in all seriousness-isn't there a limit to what you can send back at Sweetwater in good conscience?


First of all sorry but it's none of your business what I buy, what I send back or how I buy it
to be clear....
Secondly you got people here here that don't even believe that I know how to play. Them I just ignore.
That said nobody has to take to heart my opinions everyone can make-up their own minds..
I do what I have to do for me end of story.



Edited by Dnj (12/09/19 04:44 PM)

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#483404 - 12/09/19 06:20 PM Re: Made up my mind: Genos for sale [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj

I do what I have to do for me end of story.


No problem.
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