Hi,
I was browsing the PSR forum , came across this post.

Pretty amazing the capability of some people to tweak up styles.

Put a link, rather than the clip as it mentions the styles used.


https://youtu.be/iDt7Pk97aK0

UPDATED
Hi Guys
Thought I better add original link to post as well. Should have done this in the first place. Sorry.
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,52960.msg414655/topicseen.html#msg414655

My post was about the capabilities of some people who are able to tweak styles , especially the more difficult ones.

Wasn’t really about the recordings themselves. The Genos I believe was done off videos

Sorry for the confusion .

Rikki did you already forget what I taught you about posting videos on SZ?...lol

Hi Donny, no. ( or at least I hope not, I an always cheat and go look up your post again. ) Haha . LittleBlue tv screen.
I actually have a link to your post, in my iPad notes, just in case I do forget how to do it. I do that with posts that have helpful info.

The guy mentions the styles on the main page, thought might be of interest.

Can’t get over the talent of some of these people to tweak up the styles.

Rikki, I almost hesitate to comment... but someone has got to say it

The first offering has more dynamics and sounds more present.
The second offering has been filtered to cut the resonance too much, and sounds dull.

The second offerings seem warmer and clear, but lost character compared to the first offerings. Maybe overdone with compression too.

I did not check but I am pretty sure the first offerings are PSR and the second offerings are Genos


I better let Donny show me the Genos before I draw any other opinions.

Hi Fran,
so you agree , a pretty good job at tweaking?
I tried the original Genos styles on my sx900, to me they didn’t sound too good at all a fair bit of tweaking required, drum kits needing fixing etc.
Going to see if his tweaked styles sound better on the sx.

Wow - not sure what I was listening to, but in the opening sequence, the first one sounded much more alive than the second one. Sounds like they draped a cloth over the speakers when they played the second one ... it was that drastic. Anyone else agree?

Hi Dave,
I got it from this post of psr forum
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,52960.msg414655/topicseen.html#msg414655

Just thought they sounded pretty good.

Rikki, the basic "guts" of the styles sounded similar, but didn't you think the sonic footprint was very different between the two?

I think that is what I said And I guess the loser was the Genos

I gave it a second listen, and in some cases I like #1 better, and in other cases I like #2 .... I'm not sure how equal the comparison is.

Hi Dave,
I just basically used the heading he had on his post , .

He did his conversions from a video of the Genos, probably why one is sounding better than the other.

I was just amazed how close he got with the conversion. A lot of the Genos drums don’t play back on other keyboards, missing voices etc

Basically did a pretty good job I thought.

To put this into proper perspective - this is like hearing a SD90 play on a SD5 and not knowing the difference.

Yamaha allows their users to be creative - they (users) are constantly making their much older arrangers sound like the very latest ones. Thus, if you REALLY cannot afford to upgrade, then with just a little initiative and persistence you can come rather close to the latest models using what you have.

Hi Henni,
yes, it’s amazing how good some of them can be made to sound, in the right hands , of course. Haha.

The problem was , years and years ago, ( pre my kn7000) there were so many bad conversions , I spent all my time trying to sort thru the 1000’s of user styles. In the end I gave up, dumped the lot. Ended up collecting only factory styles.
Which I’m happy to say , I finally found a use for.


I gather your styles project is still going well.

Tx for sharing the video.

I’ve owned and sold my S950; now own a Genos. I’ve also owned the S710, PA4X and others.

For me, the Genos is the best arranger I’ve owned, and it’s not just about the sound.

It’s also about the key bed, the lay out of the Genos, storage...versatility..you name it.

It’s “Simply the best” for me. 😁

+1

And therein lies the key ...

PERHAPS I am missing something by not upgrading to the 'latest and greatest', but not having played any of them, I don't know, and therefore am missing nothing ...

Enjoy what you play, play what you enjoy ...

+1 Tony! To each, his own.

Answer from THE L0NEARRANGER: The Genos is played first and then the S950 in each comparison......


regards
John

Thought so, but with EQ, and stereo spread you could drastically improve the comparison.