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#482338 - 11/29/19 07:45 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: FransN]
DannyUK Offline
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Registered: 12/09/99
Posts: 1130
Originally Posted By FransN
Ok let say then every mid range and topl arrangers are overpriced. Look what you get with a Yahama modx synth. Why is this instrument only 1100 euro? Sound much better to me then any arranger out there and is full with features and also very important has usb audio.


I wouldn't class synths in the same category as arrangers? I've never owned a synth and I wouldn't want to, so I wouldn't care what they costed since it wouldn't be something I'd want. I would only compare prices between arrangers. I don't think Yamaha's are overpriced, even the Genos. In the UK the Genos & Audya 5 are similarly priced, the PA4x being a few hundred pounds cheaper, however if I had to go for a TOTL again it would be Genos out of those 3.

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#482339 - 11/29/19 07:52 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Mikem]
FransN Offline
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Loc: Netherlands
You can use the Montage or modx as an arranger. But that’s not my point. Why is an arranger so expensive if you compare it with a synth? Because they are overpriced especially Yamaha.



Edited by FransN (11/29/19 02:35 PM)

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#482349 - 11/29/19 09:14 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Mikem]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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I love the Genos, and loved the PA4X, except I don't like semi-weighted keys. I liked the SX900, but it lacked some features than I want/need.
I didn't care much for the PA1000.
My opinion on the best arranger value for the money remains Roland EA7. It will hold its own with any MOL arranger and most TOL.
The point is that there are no bad choices; it's just a matter of what suits your needs best.
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#482357 - 11/29/19 10:05 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Mikem]
FransN Offline
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Yes everyone is different as I prefer semi weighted keys or even better full weighted hammer keys.

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#482360 - 11/29/19 10:13 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: DonM]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By DonM
I love the Genos, and loved the PA4X, except I don't like semi-weighted keys. I liked the SX900, but it lacked some features than I want/need.
I didn't care much for the PA1000.
My opinion on the best arranger value for the money remains Roland EA7. It will hold its own with any MOL arranger and most TOL.
The point is that there are no bad choices; it's just a matter of what suits your needs best.


I'm with you Don +1 after a while Pa4x starts to take a toll on the digits lol ....
I must say Genos keybed is JUST RIGHT for me ..

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#482367 - 11/29/19 10:38 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
W Tracy Parnell Offline
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Loc: NY
Originally Posted By Dnj
only overpriced for those that cannot afford them...
otherwise well worth the price imo.


TOTL Arrangers
Genos=$5999 (Sweetwater)
PA4X (76)=$4099 (Sweetwater)
SD9=$4199 (Audioworks CT)

Which one is clearly overpriced?
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#482368 - 11/29/19 10:45 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: W Tracy Parnell]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By W Tracy Parnell
Originally Posted By Dnj
only overpriced for those that cannot afford them...
otherwise well worth the price imo.


TOTL Arrangers
Genos=$5999 (Sweetwater)
PA4X (76)=$4099 (Sweetwater)
SD9=$4199 (Audioworks CT)

Which one is clearly overpriced?


smart people never pay those prices..

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#482375 - 11/29/19 11:35 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: FransN]
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
Originally Posted By FransN
Best value for the money is the Korg pa1000. Way more features and about 400 euro cheaper.. From Yamaha the best value for the money is the modx synthesizer. Ofcourse this is my opinion.


Here in Aust. The korg is listed as $500 more expensive.
Probably be able to get a better discount on the korg than the sx, at the moment because yamaha is brand new on the market. But that will change.
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#482376 - 11/29/19 11:37 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
I would not say calling a product overpriced means you can't afford it.

It could be, and a very small number at that.

I can speak personally... I do not like to be ripped off for anything..

I am aware of cost factors and believe in dealers making a profit..

I also know Manufacturers dictate selling prices.. Yes Yamaha for sure.
Bose another , also Peavey etc.

I consider benefits a high priced keyboard offers over a medium
priced keyboard.
If there are no major differences for me...
I would consider the lesser priced
unit.

I will say in my practice I pretty much decide to go with the top models..

There are hyped reasons to buy a particular product,
but if you make a list
of your needs, the less expensive instrument can be better for you.

It does
not mean you can't afford it.

Like DonM I also think the E-A7 offers the best value today.

I owned and sold my first one.. to DNJ, He sold it to Hammer,
He sold it to DonM..

I tried to buy it back after owning several other keyboards
after I sold it.
BK9 (twice) SD7 and test drove several more.

I purchased another new E-A7.. It offers so much more for the dollar,
that everytime
I think of selling it... I just can't do it.

As for smart buyers paying the lower price.. no such thing..
when we want something..
brain power comes in, not first.. emotions is in control.

Genos would have to be re valued by Yamaha with a street price around
$2,500 to interest me.. Same with other products like Fantom..

Not to say they are not great.. but greatly overpriced..
If I really wanted to pay those prices.
I would find a way.. Maybe my wife's cookie jar..
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#482379 - 11/29/19 11:50 AM Re: Comparison Demo of SX900 and Tyros 5 [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
The simple solution is just don't buy it if it's too much money to spend ...
What one person does with their money and is willing to spend means squat to the next person.
We all get ripped off on everything we buy in life without even realizing it.
I'm off now to Starbucks to buy a $5.00 Cappuccino vente
& luv every sip.


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