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#470740 - 06/04/19 07:15 AM Yamaha Genos
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#470746 - 06/04/19 08:44 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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There are suppost to be key Improvements to the song player section

I have sent them a full list of needs in this area and have been told that it was addressed

lets hope so it really needs to be fixed

i would like to see better connection with cubase like other yam products
aka montage and cp

but not holding my breath here

i would like to see a after market screen glare inhancement

it is dreadful out side

or under floro lights

this is big Problem too
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#470751 - 06/04/19 10:52 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: musicforyourday]
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Originally Posted By musicforyourday

i would like to see a after market screen glare inhancement

it is dreadful out side

or under floro lights

this is big Problem too



No TILT UP & GLARE screen was a big mistake
for Genos 1.....& one of the things that made me pause and not buy first time around,....
also the overall keyboard is HUGE...
Waiting at this point would be the smart move wink
if your in the mood for a Genos 2 & if that ever will materialize.



Edited by Dnj (06/04/19 10:52 AM)

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#470753 - 06/04/19 11:55 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: musicforyourday]
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Originally Posted By musicforyourday
There are suppost to be key Improvements to the song player section

I have sent them a full list of needs in this area and have been told that it was addressed

lets hope so it really needs to be fixed

i would like to see better connection with cubase like other yam products
aka montage and cp

but not holding my breath here

i would like to see a after market screen glare inhancement

it is dreadful out side

or under floro lights

this is big Problem too



The answer from Yamaha to the outside screen problem was simple and stupid
The Genos is not meant to be used outside,,,
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#470754 - 06/04/19 12:15 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Bachus]
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Outside or inside it stinks and the glare from either sun or on stage overhead recessed lighting etc etc is horrendous for the player.
for that kind of money they should have designed a
TILT UP DISPLAY..

sheeesh...... even my Old Technics KN5000 had one!! mad

Yamaha should take a lesson from KORG in design..


Edited by Dnj (06/04/19 12:16 PM)

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#470756 - 06/04/19 01:44 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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They all suffer when used outdoors because they do not utilize supertwist LCD displays, which is used by every marine product that has been produced in the past 20 years. Sure it cost more, but when I addressed this problem to Yamaha their response was "Less than 1/100th of 1-percent of our users play outdoors - we do not feel this is a problem." They're probably right about the numbers and feel the economics don't fit.

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#470757 - 06/04/19 01:50 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj

sheeesh...... even my Old Technics KN5000 had one!! mad


My Kn1000 and Kn6000 had one but sadly KORG dropped it on the later MOTL models frown


Edited by tony mads usa (06/04/19 01:51 PM)
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#470760 - 06/04/19 04:50 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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Yes also because of the size of the unit, really overdone as getting flight cases etc is an expensive and sizeable problem. I wonder whether there would be a stick on filter for the screen to fix the outside issue. Of course the ability to add an external display will help. Other than that it’s a fantastic sounding instrument with lots of great features. Please Yamaha work with TC Hellicon and get the harmony engine right, one thing where Korg is on track.

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#470762 - 06/04/19 05:19 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Robbo]
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Genos sounds and styles sound great.....
All it needs is a new designed smaller
package tilt screen listen to players needs
Lower the price...
TC Helicon VH... Etc, etc,

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#470778 - 06/05/19 06:33 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Robbo]
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Originally Posted By Robbo
Please Yamaha work with TC Hellicon and get the harmony engine right, one thing where Korg is on track.

Since Behringer now owns TC Helicon...it will be interesting to see how their harmonizer technology will be licensed.
JM

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#470779 - 06/05/19 06:37 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: jingleman]
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Maybe that’s why Korg is waiting to release it’s next TOTL arranger. Having to pay a rival keyboard manufacturer for technology would suck.
JM


Edited by jingleman (06/05/19 06:41 AM)

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#470790 - 06/05/19 10:49 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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ha ha Genos for me is a dream come true , and people still complain !
for 40 yeares i used so many keys since the Hammond , Rhodes ect , some of them were wonderful , some of them average and some not so good , but i never felt rhat i have the masterpeace . the only one that is for me the masterpeace is the Genos , although it is not perfect.
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#470794 - 06/05/19 12:32 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By Dnj
Genos sounds and styles sound great.....
All it needs is a new designed smaller
package tilt screen listen to players needs
Lower the price...
TC Helicon VH... Etc, etc,


The screen i agree, but smaller package?
Its a keyboard for the home players
And it looks majestic and beatifull as is..

And its light enough to cary it everywhere..
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#470795 - 06/05/19 12:34 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: jingleman]
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Originally Posted By jingleman
Maybe that’s why Korg is waiting to release it’s next TOTL arranger. Having to pay a rival keyboard manufacturer for technology would suck.
JM


Korg is not waiting with releasing a new totl arranger,,
I still expect it later this year, right on their 4 year release schedule
And yes, also the pa3x had a major software upgrade about 6 months before the pa4x released
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#470798 - 06/05/19 01:06 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Bachus]
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Bachus, Does it not make sense that leasing Behringer’s vocal harmony technology, might be a bitter pill for Korg to swallow?

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#470814 - 06/05/19 06:21 PM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: dud]
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Originally Posted By dud
ha ha Genos for me is a dream come true , and people still complain !
for 40 yeares i used so many keys since the Hammond , Rhodes ect , some of them were wonderful , some of them average and some not so good , but i never felt rhat i have the masterpeace . the only one that is for me the masterpeace is the Genos , although it is not perfect.


Very well said. There’s an old saying “you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.” Nothing’s perfect if there is I haven’t found it yet.

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#471805 - 06/27/19 01:27 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Dnj]
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The details on the 1.4 v update have been posted. Can’t see that they have done anything more than they eluded too, but you never know until the actual update is posted tomorrow.

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#471815 - 06/27/19 06:02 AM Re: Yamaha Genos [Re: Robbo]
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