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#46455 - 03/01/05 09:45 PM Interesting tread about copyright issues.
Gunnar Jonny Online   content
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Hi.

Since this topic is something who has been discussed some times earlier
on and also is a important issue, I thought it might be of some interest
for the members here at SZ Technics Forum as well.

As you will see, representatives from both the manufacturers such as GEM
and 3rd party Softwarehouses such as Midi Spot also take part in the tread.
I think that is great to see, besides of the fact that it don't make it to
be less informative and interesting reading.

GJ


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#46456 - 03/02/05 07:42 AM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Gunnar,

Very interesting discussion. Until more cases reach the courts, copywrite issue will remain a controvercey.

Fran in Florida

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#46457 - 03/02/05 08:24 AM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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had a good look and has me thinking how many styles I own ?. Thanks for the link

gunnar out tonight playing the kn7000 will be looking over my sholder

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#46458 - 03/02/05 10:42 AM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Rog
Good luck tonight - why would you have bought them unless you intended to use them and in a public place...!
Plenty of swaps available if interested, but Sssssh don't tell anybody else!!!
Rog
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#46459 - 03/02/05 01:08 PM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
shcox Offline
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Registered: 09/10/03
Posts: 296
Loc: Leesburg, FL USA
Hi All,

Certainly copyright law is on of the most misunderstood and most complicated laws around especially for software which styles are. In fact the styles would actually be considered data since it requires a program to read it.

The programs I wrote for the last company I worked for were never sold. By that I mean we would sell electronic data and "loan" you the program to read it therefore the copyright remained completely under our control.

Most people want to believe that because they pay a something it belongs to them. But have you ever read the "license" agreements that you are told to read when installing software? In almost all cases, you are granted a "License to Use" the software but it still belongs to the company that sold it. You have no legal right to it at all.




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#46460 - 03/02/05 02:59 PM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Rog M,

I knew by your past posts, that you and I as Englishmen have a bit of the devil in us.

Fran in Florida

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#46461 - 03/02/05 03:12 PM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Registered: 03/19/02
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Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Why do we need Midispot files anyway when there are hundreds of other files equally as good as or even better than theirs available on the market?

Isn't our contribution to the copyright fee included in the price?

Aud (U.K.)

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#46462 - 03/02/05 09:43 PM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Audrey Turner:
Why do we need Midispot files anyway......



Well, I happen to like them for my style of playing, as
many others happen to like Neil Blake, Carillon or even
Technics.

It's not only about MidiSpot, it's about all commercial
software, even Technics stuff bought at Technote.
And yes, we pay for it when buy, but do that mean that
you can make it free downloadable at your website if you
happen to have one, or copy and send it to all other of
the keyboardusers you know about via e-mail as soon as
you bought any?
(Those who remember will know that this was the reason
that Technote closed down the Technics forum some years
ago)

Regarding to what files are better than others, guess
it's more about taste of musicstyle. There is a lot of
the Technics styles, both sold separately and onboard
the kb who I don't like at all, but do that mean that it
is bad quality?


Sorry if I offended anyone by post the link, thougt it
would be for some interest rather than make anybody feel
the danger of not collect 1st class commersial files for
free.

Happy playing, with or without styles.
GJ
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#46463 - 03/03/05 01:39 AM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
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Hiya Gunnar
I like you am completely opposed to sharing someone else's commercial work on the net through a web site - it's doing that person out of a legitimate living....
However the copyright requirements are obviously complicated because Midi-spot themselves hide many of their song specific rhythms behind innocuous titles and maybe that's where the problem lies.
A generic rhythm with an innocuous title picked up on the web which can be converted to use for a particular song may be deemed to be nothing more than a standard built-in keyboard rhythm from some machine or other and therefore fair game for sharing...
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#46464 - 03/03/05 02:12 AM Re: Interesting tread about copyright issues.
Walter McLaren Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: Borders. Scotland
Many years ago I went to solicitor regarding copyright of my professional photographs, colour copiers were just coming on the market, and asked him what the law was. His £35 answer was, "no lawyer will tell you the law of copyright. they will tell you their interpretation of it"!!!! Walter.
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