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#464407 - 01/10/19 04:33 AM MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2
john smies Offline
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Hello,

Recently re-purchased a used SD2 module to use in conjunction with my PA1000. ( years ago I used to have one together with my PA800).
Can anyone here inform me of the correct Midi commands to select the banks ? I know it always involves a nine-digit number
(000.000.000) and also recall that the first three had to be zeros and the last three the choice of sound within a bank. I do however NOT recall which numbers to choose for the second three digits in order to choose the correct soundbank.

regards
John

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#464408 - 01/10/19 05:11 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: john smies]
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Hey John,

May not be an exact match but should be pretty close. You can download the tech data sheet for SD40 from our site that has bank and patch info here --> https://immusic.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SD40_Technical_Table_2016.pdf
We also have an *.ins file that works with Cakewalk (or Sonar) that will map out the bank and patch commands should by any chance you have access to that DAW?
https://immusic.co/downloads/cakewalk-ins-file-for-ketron-sd40/


Edited by IMMusic_Curt (01/10/19 05:11 AM)
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#464413 - 01/10/19 05:40 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: IMMusic_Curt]
john smies Offline
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thanks Curt for prompt reply.

Pretty sure though that those numbers are not going to work.
I seem to recall from using the SD2 in the past the numbers for the second row of three digits ( to select Banks) was something like 031, 032 , etc. By the by I am not using the computer but my Korg PA1000 as Midi master, which enables you to select and store settings of the Ketron in the Korg memory..............

cheers,
John

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#464419 - 01/10/19 09:45 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: john smies]
Fran Carango Offline
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Guys you need to understand LSB MSB program change.. maybe this will help.
https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/6-what-msb-lsb-refer-for-changing-banks-andprograms/
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#464428 - 01/10/19 10:57 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: Fran Carango]
john smies Offline
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Thanks Fran, that's all very interesting but all I really need is the three digits in the middle to know which bank to select on the SD2. Surely there must be someone here who knows ?
As stated earlier I seem to recall that the first three digits had to be all zeros and the last three digits obviously the number of the sound in the related bank.
So..............anyone ?

regards
John

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#464432 - 01/10/19 11:06 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: john smies]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By john smies

Thanks Fran, that's all very interesting but all I really need is the three digits in the middle to know which bank to select on the SD2. Surely there must be someone here who knows ?
As stated earlier I seem to recall that the first three digits had to be all zeros and the last three digits obviously the number of the sound in the related bank.
So..............anyone ?

regards
John





John, the "000" is the control change (Cc) for the MSB, "032" is the control change (Cc) for the LSB, followed by Program change.

John, let me use an example .. I use the Code61 with the SD1000..
When I select the LSB cc032, I enter 000, When I select MSB cc000, I enter one of the banks numbers, 000, 001, 010, 011, or 004 (grooves)… followed by the program change number..



I also use the Code61 to control the Roland Integra (6,000) sounds grin


Edited by Fran Carango (01/10/19 11:20 AM)
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#464486 - 01/11/19 02:39 PM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: john smies]
Fran Carango Offline
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So John …. did you figure it out? smile
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#464489 - 01/11/19 04:04 PM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: john smies]
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Assuming that in your 9-digit number the first three digits represent MSB, these values have to be 000, 001 or 010 for the three banks each. LSB does not apply, so the middle group of three digits should be without effect.
The MSB values are stated in this German-language manual of the SD2.
http://www.sound-tuning-spessart.de/VERKAUF/Zip/SD2-Handbuch.pdf

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#464494 - 01/12/19 01:24 AM Re: MIDI bank numbers Ketron SD2 [Re: Crossover]
john smies Offline
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Fran and Crossover ,

Thanks for all the help, I am slowly getting there, at least with the right hand sounds. The Drumsets and in particular the Live Drums sets are still a bit of a problem. Can't do much at present due to eye surgery last Monday ( cataract), a second one pending.
But thanks again and in time I will get back to you.

John

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