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#460433 - 10/28/18 11:16 AM EMC software
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http://www.emc-musicsoftware.com/epages/...gories/Standard

We all know emc styleworks for converting styles from brand to brand

But is anyone using one of these packages?

Stylefactory : creating your own styles, comes with a huge database of phrases.

Styles to box : converting band in a box styles to arranger styles



They caught my eye when looking for info about styleworks ketron, but never heared of them before..
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#460434 - 10/28/18 11:30 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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It could be something kool or not?....but with the thousands of styles floating around and so many you can convert or make yourself in so many ways who needs to waste money on this?....
but good luck who ever buys it.

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#460435 - 10/28/18 12:44 PM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Hi Bachus,
Had them for years, but don’t really use them much.
Phrase factory basically stores styles as phrases, You load a style in , it breaks it up into phrases, You then store it in your phrase library.
From there you put a style together from the phrases you have collected in your phrase library. Ie you can add phrases from a korg style, a Roland style , whatever and you have a new style for your keyboard.
It had limitations though, not sure if it does intros / endings.
To be quite honest haven’t used it for years,

Band in a Box addition again haven’t used it for years. It came up with some very mediocre results. at the time. They may have improved i it over the years.
I didn’t persevere as I prefer to convert a band in a box style from a midi file for the korg, more control over what I end up with ie record a midi file based on a specific chord, might be 32 bars whatever, intro ending fills. Save as midi file , put the markers In, in using xg works and import it into the korg . Then do settings in the korg to finish off style.
I’d just started to experiment with it again, before we decided to move, then my accident set me back another 3 months, so I sort of lost track of where I was up to.

I still have the EMC programs, i’m pretty sure I can still update them, unless the latest was an upgrade,
Busy for the next few days, but I can do a revisit of the software if you are interested.


Edited by rikkisbears (10/28/18 01:30 PM)
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#460449 - 10/28/18 11:02 PM Re: EMC software [Re: rikkisbears]
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Originally Posted By rikkisbears
Hi Bachus,
Had them for years, but don’t really use them much.
Phrase factory basically stores styles as phrases, You load a style in , it breaks it up into phrases, You then store it in your phrase library.
From there you put a style together from the phrases you have collected in your phrase library. Ie you can add phrases from a korg style, a Roland style , whatever and you have a new style for your keyboard.
It had limitations though, not sure if it does intros / endings.
To be quite honest haven’t used it for years,

Band in a Box addition again haven’t used it for years. It came up with some very mediocre results. at the time. They may have improved i it over the years.
I didn’t persevere as I prefer to convert a band in a box style from a midi file for the korg, more control over what I end up with ie record a midi file based on a specific chord, might be 32 bars whatever, intro ending fills. Save as midi file , put the markers In, in using xg works and import it into the korg . Then do settings in the korg to finish off style.
I’d just started to experiment with it again, before we decided to move, then my accident set me back another 3 months, so I sort of lost track of where I was up to.

I still have the EMC programs, i’m pretty sure I can still update them, unless the latest was an upgrade,
Busy for the next few days, but I can do a revisit of the software if you are interested.


Thanks for your input Rikki
I dont think they have seen many updates over the years
The interface still looks more like windows 3.11 then modern day programs.

Pulling styles into phrases is basically what Ketron does to.. and thats one of the most interesting parts of Ketron..
Sadly Ketron is not really supported very well by STyleworks. It only supports the old formats, not the newer audio style series. Which should not be a real problem tough, if you are mostly interested in phrases.

IF you ever get a chance to toy around with the software, i would be happy with an update.. but please don't put any priority to it.
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#460506 - 10/30/18 05:18 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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I have version 4.5. Would I be allowed to update my copy to the newest version? If so, how should I go about it?

I have not received any email feedback from Klaus with regards to this.

I am annoyed by the promise of free updates afterwards when purchasing a product (like i.e AJAMSONIC) only to find out later that this does not hold true.

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#460510 - 10/30/18 06:14 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Henni]
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Originally Posted By Henni
.... how should I go about it?


If you don't have the downloadlink, just email Klaus at emcsoftware@aol.com
Now it's v.4.95, but it will probably be some more updates in near future....
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#460515 - 10/30/18 06:39 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Tx GJ,

I've now sent him a 2nd email with regards to this. Hopefully he'll respond THIS time round.

Henni
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#460516 - 10/30/18 06:43 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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I emailed Klaus and received a reply and a link to the new software yesterday.

Here is his quote: "I will send out a notification about this to all users anyway in the next days, but feel free to download the new version now"

I don't know if I'm permitted to post the link or not.

Al
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#460582 - 10/31/18 11:16 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Tx, Klaus sorted me out.
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#460615 - 10/31/18 10:15 PM Re: EMC software [Re: kbrkr]
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Hi,
Don’t know if everyone’s link is the same. Lost mine a few years back, ever since I keep it copied to an email, my mail on korg forum, a note in my iPad.
Total paranoia, don’t want to lose it again.
Can’t remember if someone gave me a copy of the link or if I had to get in touch with Klaus.

Don’t know if someone who doesn’t have EMC could use it anyway. Doesn’t run without the codes.
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#460627 - 11/01/18 09:03 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Edited by kbrkr (11/01/18 09:04 AM)
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#460636 - 11/01/18 11:22 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Thanks a lot Al. That did it.

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#460650 - 11/01/18 09:19 PM Re: EMC software [Re: kbrkr]
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Hi , just realised I hadn’t loaded my EMC back in after I did a clean start on my laptop and took it back to new.

I basically just downloaded my links, and found i need new codes. So basically the links aren’t of any use to a non owner anyway, which is good.

Must have damaged more than my wrist when I slipped, though don’t remember hitting my head. Haha
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#460655 - 11/02/18 01:40 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Hey Rikki

That's a shame. I don't imagine I can be of any help.
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#460656 - 11/02/18 01:44 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bernie9]
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Hi,

what is the Version of this Update from XT Version.
My last is 4.79

From Style Factory i have 4.81
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#460657 - 11/02/18 03:02 AM Re: EMC software [Re: rikkisbears]
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Originally Posted By rikkisbears
.... and found i need new codes....


Hi Rikki.
If you still have a copy of your XUDAT file, and remember the install procedure, you can go to EMC website and register again, the Klaus send you the second code.
If not have the XUDAT provided, just contact Klaus and he guide you to get your software working again. smile
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#460658 - 11/02/18 03:08 AM Re: EMC software [Re: freakman]
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Originally Posted By freakman
Hi,

what is the Version of this Update from XT Version.
My last is 4.79.....


I think v4.95 is the current XT Universal vesion, but that it is more to come during the next days or so.
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#460660 - 11/02/18 03:48 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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OK,

Thank's
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#460693 - 11/02/18 02:25 PM Re: EMC software [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Originally Posted By Gunnar Jonny
Originally Posted By rikkisbears
.... and found i need new codes....


Hi Rikki.
If you still have a copy of your XUDAT file, and remember the install procedure, you can go to EMC website and register again, the Klaus send you the second code.
If not have the XUDAT provided, just contact Klaus and he guide you to get your software working again. smile


Hi Jonny,
I no doubt have a copy of the file somewhere on one of my USB drives. I tend to back important stuff up so hopefully shouldn’t be a problem. Thankfully they didn’t get lost when we moved, just a case of checking thru them. Thank you I will get in touch with Klaus when I find it. Still unpacking my music stuff.
Nice to be back. Members are so helpful.
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#460720 - 11/03/18 02:28 AM Re: EMC software [Re: kbrkr]
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Hello,

Can I use this update for my XT version without re-registering?
Thank's

I have already written to Mr. Grosser, but I do not get an answer regarding the updates. Now the homepage says Ketron will come next year. Has changed again.


Edited by freakman (11/03/18 02:33 AM)
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#460723 - 11/03/18 05:54 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Hi Freakman,

Yes, you should be able to upgrade without re-registering as long as your current version is registered properly. If not, as Rikki is trying to do, you will have to reload your serial # and Code 1 and get a new Code 2 from Klaus. Check your emails from EMC, you might have your Code 2 already which you can reuse.

Regards,
Al
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#460724 - 11/03/18 05:57 AM Re: EMC software [Re: freakman]
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Originally Posted By freakman
Hello,
Can I use this update for my XT version without re-registering?

If the version you have installed do start and work OK, it's just to download and run the updatefile and everything should be fine.

Quote text at the EMC 'newspage':

"Latest information
After a long delay we have now implemented support for the current Korg series Pa4x/1000/700 in all our programs along with the sound maps for Yamaha Tyros 5 and Genos.

Due to quite numerous request regarding the newer Ketron keyboards we will probably do an update for these instruments as well, but this will not become available before 2019."
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#460726 - 11/03/18 06:10 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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My EMc Universal version 2000 still uses a floppy disc !! surprised

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#460728 - 11/03/18 06:56 AM Re: EMC software [Re: kbrkr]
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I still have the registration data. Will try the 4.95 once. Since I receive no answer from H. Grosser. Many Thanks.
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#460733 - 11/03/18 07:20 AM Re: EMC software [Re: freakman]
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Ok,

it worked now has version 4.95 without new registration.

Thank you
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#460734 - 11/03/18 07:30 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Interested in hearing about how well style the conversions work in different arrangers and how much additional work has to be done to make them sound decent enough to use especially from variation to variation, chord changes etc,? .....

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#460789 - 11/03/18 10:31 PM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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I asked Klaus a year ago to make some modifications to his program to make it more batch convert friendly. I've sent him a list with the all the changes I saw as an improvement.

I am happy to report that Klaus implemented ALL of those, and now, finally, I can do batch conversions without watching over it constantly.

To date I have run more than two hundred thousand styles of all brands through his fantastic software - it is well worth purchasing indeed. Yes, the Pa4x conversions are poor for now (especially the intros & endings), but the conversions of the other Korgs are better than before which makers it worth installing the update.

I'll have a chat with Klaus soon on how to convert Yamaha styles better and hopefully he will implement this into an new update.

There is NO style converter avaible that converts styles between brands having the same quality as the original. However, with just a little tweaking, amazing results can be had and puts so much more styles at ones disposal. Yes, some can live with only a handful of styles, I know. As for me, new styles excites me and is part of the fun I get out of using an arranger (in the way I do).

After all, it is all about having fun which I certainly do! I ALWAYS get the most out of my arrangers and their on-board features as I am not a piano player at all. My arrangers do most of the work/music for me simply because I let them.
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#460813 - 11/04/18 06:01 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Bachus]
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Just curious: is this a challenge response type of copy protection that is limited to use on one computer? Couldn't find that information on the company's site.

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#460816 - 11/04/18 06:14 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Ric4001]
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Originally Posted By Ric4001

...... protection that is limited to use on one computer?

Yes, during install there is a register procedure that's generates a unik pincode for the PC you install the software.
This pin has to be sent to the author or prosessed via a form at the webpage to get a second code to get the software fully working.
Myself, I do wish it was possible to swap between i.e. a portable laptop and the PC, but unfornately it's not possible. (Not as far as I know).
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#460817 - 11/04/18 06:15 AM Re: EMC software [Re: Gunnar Jonny]
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Thanks for the info!

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