I have had my Genos for 5 months Aprox and Still no fix for the Song player.

sonicly it great OS need lots of work I have been told that there working on it but I am starting to get pissed here .

song next not there song list very unusable

i use lot of Midi's when I play and the song Next dose not work try having 100 plus poeple on the dance floor and i go to pick another song
in the middle of the one that is playing because i want to keep the croud going and it stops my song in it tracks and goes to the next song

970 T4 T5 all have a song next hell prob the cheep one do too how could they not have this in the Genos and before one of you recomend me to build a song list if you do that it will not work with the markers just getting me Pissed off

i got call into Yamaha and I need this fixed os 2.0 does not fix the issue.

Korgs dual player is great for that.... Hope they get enough complaints to fix it someday Ron... that said why not just record your smf songs to MP# and use a laptop..

Hi
You saying this function worked ok in the prior keyboards, but has a bug that stops it functioning correctly in the Genos?

Is there possibly another way around it? Surely you couldn’t be the only person using this function. Have you checked the Yamaha forum.

Not terribly impressive if they haven’t fixed a bug after all these months.

This is so typically not Yamaha

Sure Yamaha is allways thin on new features in their keyboards..
But i never ever remember having encountered a bug on them..

Out of curiosity....

As I looked at the song player on Genos, one player was labeled audio player and the other player was labeled midi file player.

On the PA4X, if I remember correctly, both players were MP3 players.

Makes me wonder if Genos was designed to fade in and out of songs on the song player?

Might not even be close here on this issue...??

Not sure "cross fading" is even on genos?....
going between "TWO Different Source players Mp3/Smf Formats" is gonna work on genos?....
I could be wrong?.....

I don’t know if Genos could cross fade either? In my case, I wouldn’t have a use for that.

Be interesting to find out.

I can tell that it's possible to crossfade between audio and midi files on PSR-S950.

My Issue is not with cross fade althow i think it is also a problem

cross fading 2 audio is not what I do midi to midi cross fade would be nice

but not possable at this time too I have reported this also another pisser

my issue is in song mode or song player

when a song is playing i want to arm another song to start 5 seconds after the end of another song T4 T5 PSR ALL DO IT

but no Genos does not

if you arm a song during Midi play back BANG your song ends

and so does you audience .

how could they over look this Every keyboard for the last 15 years has this.

song List allows you to do it but it is lame song list does not allow you to use Markers

a very usful tool for dances

how many times have any of you guys had dancers get up min the middle of a song

if you are using a MP3 wave or Midi woth out markers you are screwed

so song list puts songs in order but no marker and very limited

it is a software fix come on Yamaha fix this

i do play styles but i am playing A Guitar singing in audience ect so i do not want to be tied to keyboard .

If the problem becomes insolvable I will buy the GENOS and pick it up.
Good luck, charles

Gobsmacked at this omission. I use this function extensively precisely because a significant gap between songs when you have a full dance floor equates to an empty dancefloor, and I don't work to a playlist.

I'm hoping get get hands-on with a Genos at the end of the month. This will be investigated!

This is why I use 2 iPads on the job

donny one reason i play in real time for example i pick song on feel

dont have set list i like the Marker in yamaha Midi files i can extend song or go to ending at any time have another song in waiting in real time pick the song at any point no lag dancers want to keep going no lag picking another song i think 2 to 3 songs ahead to keep the flow

Genos has screwed this up for me for now i am getting to people high up to get this resolved

this should not be a big fix

i want it to be on touch opp Genos can go from one sone to the next like before with 5 sec lag perfect all the other units do it why not Genos I think they over looked this

if you play as many events as I do per year this is very important to me

mp3 has you locked into the time the song is and that is it

i am thinking of mixing in a few MP3 but what I do works why fix it

Thats the beauty of a LAPTOP with all your recorded songs,backing tracks on it.......mp3..

all the more reason to use a laptop with instant access to thousands of songs at the push of a button and an alphabetical search function that is incomparable by ANY other device tablets included in real time when the floor is packed with dancers, .....if you were closer I could show you exactly what i mean live in real time

All that is fine, but how do you play arranger on a request? Don't you have to have some sort of style and sounds available ahead of time, along with tempo, etc? Winging it on an arranger, unless just piano, is not an easy task.

Yes, you can cross fade on Genos
Eric

zuki not understanding your question please elaborate further please give an example..

I do it all the time. You have to know what styles you have, and what general song types they fit. I have memorized or saved locations for about 10 "go-to" styles. I quick check of tempo, pull up lyrics if needed and play!
On most of my text files of lyrics, I have the tempo, key and genre typed in. For example:
"Help Me Make It Through The Night" Kris Kristopherson, Ray Price - Tempo: 4/4 80 Key: D
Maybe 75 percent of requests I know off the top of my head, how to play them, style needed and key!

If I were to rely on style play only... I would also only use about a dozen styles..

It is more than enough... by the time you mute a couple parts, and 4 variations at hand.... you should be able to cover the bases..



This is also why I say a style is just a style and would never buy a new keyboard for the rom styles..

Ron.... I assume we talkin about a pumped-up dance floor not some ballads...?

Hi Don and Fran,
I’ve got hundreds of styles I’ve collected over the years, the weird part is, never realised just how few I really needed. Found a Nashville music book amongst my collection, first for me, playing a bit of country. The whole 20 or so tunes can be covered by 3 or 4 of the Pa4x styles, and a couple of piano ballads I edited. The piano ballads can probably be used even more widely.

Jim, I agree with DonM. You just have to know the styles that are available and what songs they are suitable to perform with that specific style. Then it's just a matter of going to that style, selecting it and pressing the synch start button and you're into the song. I created a very extensive music finder directory several years ago, about 750 of the most popular songs I performed over the years. The MFD allows you to save some of the favorites in a favorite area, and select songs by tempo, style, genre, and song title, all of which are great tools when you have a full dance floor. By using the MFD, I can actually transition from one song to another while that first song is ending, thus zero dead time between songs. I rarely use midi files or pre-recorded MP3s because of the time constraints. During a one hour performance, I may use up to 20 different styles, of which, half may be third-party, song specific styles. A couple years ago, I posted a video of how I use the music finder directory on the PSR-3000 and just how easy it was to go from one song to the next, and also in that same video, I demonstrated the use of the MFD in conjunction with registrations. It is very easy and very effective.

Now, I just fired up the PSR-S950 to try and determine what the problem was with the OP, which I may have a solution for. When I select a midi file to play and that file begins playing, if I use the scrolling wheel to find the next file I wish to play and use the enter button, the next feature is activated. However, if I just press the button next to the midi file, it cuts out the first midi file and begins playing the second file. Not having a Genos to try this out, I'm only guess this is a solution, but it may not work on the Genos.

Good luck,

Gary