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#443711 - 01/01/18 01:50 PM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5508
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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So far, mine has been great.
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pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
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#443760 - 01/02/18 07:26 AM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: captain Russ]
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Registered: 04/16/14
Posts: 1950
Loc: Missouri
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Henni, sorry you're having problems with Ketron. I really like their products, and have 4 of their pieces of equipment. My problem is with the way they do business, rather than the design of their keyboards. I have been offered a keyboard If I send a check made out to an individual, not the dealer. Another time, I was asked to meet an employee after show hours to complete a deal, ...But don't tell anyone...".
That's totally unacceptable in the US.
Be well, and happy 2018!
R. At one point, I was very interested in an SD7. I was told, pay $3,800 up front and wait until one is available...not sure when... Maybe some company, with actual marketing skills, should buy Ketron?
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#443818 - 01/02/18 05:23 PM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
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Henni,
Please advise those you know who have tried using the style converter on the SD9 Pro and experienced abnormalities with this and any other functions .... if they bought their SD9 Pro with OS 1.0.0, they MUST first install OS 1.0.1 (as is clearly mentioned on our website) BEFORE installing OS 1.0.2. My guess is they possibly had OS 1.0.0 in their units, skipped updating with OS 1.0.1 (which has crucial updates not repeated in OS 1.0.2) and updated directly to OS 1.0.2 (which has updates not found in OS 1.0.1 either).
Also I'll state this again. The SD-series in general is NOT the AUDYA series and is not the flagship series (else it would have been in our brochures as we've usually done e.g X1, SD1, AUDYA). The SD9 Pro is also built on a totally newer platform than the AUDYA and so compatibility could sometimes be problematic. If you do convert a style from AUDYA to SD9 Pro, do not forget to also bring on board the Audio resources and name them appropriately ..... in AUDYA, styles are named xxx@120.wav, in the SD9 Pro, you need to create a folder with the style name and BPM (e.g. POP 112), then in this folder, put in all 18 or 22 (for styles with 8 variation parts) audio files associated with the style (ARR A.wav, ARR B.wav ...etc) ).
Hope this clarifies this.
Thanks,
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#443840 - 01/02/18 10:28 PM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 12/01/08
Posts: 3456
Loc: South Africa
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The SD9 Pro is the professional version of the SD series and in a unique class of it's own, offering unique features for customers who what to spend more time playing and less time editting and creating from scratch. Thanks to newer technology, Ketron has succeeded in creating a musical instrument that truly puts music ...the arrangement of music at the hands of you the musician ... and which requires no engineering or IT background to operate (as seems to be the case with many instruments being released these days).
Audya's deep editing tools, multiple outputs including SPDIF in/out and additional audio features such as parametric EQ on audio drums...etc puts it in a unique class of its own for those who love to dive in deep ....( but not necessarily ahead) of the SD9 Pro, which also has unique professional features like Launch Pad not found on Audya ...or any other keyboard to date!
Ketron's SD9 Pro is for those who want a professional sounding product without all the in depth "editors and menus" usually associated with one ...one that sounds professional out of the box, a product you can purchase at 3pm and be gigging with at 6pm that same day.
In my opinion, both the SD9 Pro and Audya are flagships (a company can have multiple flagship instruments) ...just for different consumers and in different categories.
Thanks, Sorry AJ, I do not want to get into a feud with you. I certainly get the impression you stated all of the above just to relieve pressure from Ketron. The SD9 IS indeed the Audya replacement, but cannot live up to the requirements. I HATE lies with a passion. When Ketron states something is going to be released soon, it actually takes years to happen. So when you state it will take long, you are just saying that it will never happen. I am back at my original complaint: THE SD9 IS SUPPOSED TO HANDLE ANYTHING THAT THE AUDYA CAN THROW AT IT - * * * PERIOD * * * The fact that it cannot just proves that it was released prematurely. It is I that now understand. Henni I have listened to all the SD9 demos. All the Audya audio guitar loops are there, only in an improved format. Most certainly the conversion software onboard the SD9 can redirect the requests to the most appropriate audio guitar loops. I'm sure same goes for the Audio drums.
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#443844 - 01/02/18 11:23 PM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: Henni]
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
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The SD9 Pro is the professional version of the SD series and in a unique class of it's own, offering unique features for customers who what to spend more time playing and less time editting and creating from scratch. Thanks to newer technology, Ketron has succeeded in creating a musical instrument that truly puts music ...the arrangement of music at the hands of you the musician ... and which requires no engineering or IT background to operate (as seems to be the case with many instruments being released these days).
Audya's deep editing tools, multiple outputs including SPDIF in/out and additional audio features such as parametric EQ on audio drums...etc puts it in a unique class of its own for those who love to dive in deep ....( but not necessarily ahead) of the SD9 Pro, which also has unique professional features like Launch Pad not found on Audya ...or any other keyboard to date!
Ketron's SD9 Pro is for those who want a professional sounding product without all the in depth "editors and menus" usually associated with one ...one that sounds professional out of the box, a product you can purchase at 3pm and be gigging with at 6pm that same day.
In my opinion, both the SD9 Pro and Audya are flagships (a company can have multiple flagship instruments) ...just for different consumers and in different categories.
Thanks, Sorry AJ, I do not want to get into a feud with you. I certainly get the impression you stated all of the above just to relieve pressure from Ketron. The SD9 IS indeed the Audya replacement, but cannot live up to the requirements. I HATE lies with a passion. When Ketron states something is going to be released soon, it actually takes years to happen. So when you state it will take long, you are just saying that it will never happen. I am back at my original complaint: THE SD9 IS SUPPOSED TO HANDLE ANYTHING THAT THE AUDYA CAN THROW AT IT - * * * PERIOD * * * The fact that it cannot just proves that it was released prematurely. It is I that now understand. Henni I have listened to all the SD9 demos. All the Audya audio guitar loops are there, only in an improved format. Most certainly the conversion software onboard the SD9 can redirect the requests to the most appropriate audio guitar loops. I'm sure same goes for the Audio drums. ============================================= If indeed the SD9 Pro is supposed to be the new Audya replacement as you've stated, then yes, you are correct...in theory, it 'should' handle everything the Audya can throw at it....but it 'doesn't' ...because in reality, ...it isn't. There is a difference between replacement and flagship. Most of the requirements for the SD9 Pro have been met ...some are still in the works as this new platform can handle a lot. It's a new and different keyboard that has amungst other things, 'borrowed' technology from the Audya series and SD7. I do however still respect your views and thoughts and ... wants.
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#443854 - 01/03/18 01:55 AM
Re: 1st SD9 broken promise!
[Re: Henni]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5508
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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In defense of AJ, I would like to state that he told me the SD9 was NOT an Audya replacement, as the flagship, before it even came out.
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