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#429219 - 02/24/17 04:00 PM OVER THE RAINBOW ...
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After imbibing on the aforementioned 'goose' in guitpic1's thread, I decided to record and post this ...
John C mentioned in another thread about just using Pads on some songs ... this one uses a stripped down style, 4 guitar pads, and two RH voices ... and a little harmony ...

Right off the Pa900... no editing ...

My apologies to Eva, Judy, Don Mason, Jerry Lee and the rest ...


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#429225 - 02/24/17 04:54 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Tony nice job. Two suggestions.

1- Keep varying the pads with added parts of the style. For the first try, great.

2-Next time you sing this song wear your tight pants. This has to be one of the most difficult songs to sing. (smile) Jumping an octave is not an easy task. Over 60 it hurts.

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#429231 - 02/24/17 09:25 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: bruno123]
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Nicely done Tony. I've never used pads much. Interesting way to generate the accompaniment.

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#429239 - 02/25/17 03:59 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: KORG80]
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4- Finger Snaps
These four can add excitement if they are used sparingly. By adding finger snaps you create a grove.
5- Soft Strings
6- Horn Riff
7- Jazz, Rock or blues Piano riffs brings a nice change to a boring style.

There is no end to what you can do with Latin music and percussion.

Sometimes I mute everything but the Drums and Bass and add all four pads. The pads might be: Bass Drum, Snaps, Horns, and Strings. Toward the end of a upbeat song might use the style and the pads.

Listen to a song, the band keeps changing, no boredom – and when the singer sings the band really gets in the background. Both on Korg and Yamaha they have a dedicated control to mute parts of the style. The secret is imagination.

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#429246 - 02/25/17 06:43 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Very nice rendition Tony. Sounded to me like a cross between the traditional and the more contemporary Hawaiian version. I enjoyed It 👍🏼
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#429250 - 02/25/17 07:32 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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very interesting version nice job tony

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#429469 - 03/02/17 04:41 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: bruno123]
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#429472 - 03/02/17 05:17 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Donny, that was an outstanding rendition of my favorite song. I've seen this one before and it never ceases to amaze me.

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#429478 - 03/03/17 04:46 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Donny, that was an outstanding rendition of my favorite song. I've seen this one before and it never ceases to amaze me.

Gary cool


Gary yes TE is pure mastery on guitar to the highest degree simply amazing in every aspect performing this beautiful song wow!

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#429482 - 03/03/17 08:33 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Dnj]
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I, too have watched this many times. Makes me want to break my wrist!

Wonderful!


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#429501 - 03/04/17 04:53 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Dnj]
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Tommy can play any style. He is probably the best Australian guitarist of all time. Not to mention being the total entertainer.


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#429503 - 03/04/17 05:04 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Nigel]
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Tommy's brother Phil is no slouch on guitar either

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#429773 - 03/11/17 11:03 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123

Keep varying the pads with added parts of the style. For the first try, great.
4- Finger Snaps
These four can add excitement if they are used sparingly. By adding finger snaps you create a grove.
5- Soft Strings
6- Horn Riff
7- Jazz, Rock or blues Piano riffs brings a nice change to a boring style.

There is no end to what you can do with Latin music and percussion.

Sometimes I mute everything but the Drums and Bass and add all four pads. The pads might be: Bass Drum, Snaps, Horns, and Strings. Toward the end of a upbeat song might use the style and the pads.

Both on Korg and Yamaha they have a dedicated control to mute parts of the style. The secret is imagination.


John......I thought your remarks here were very helpful and filled with creative ideas. I'm surprised no one picked up on what you said.

I've been toying with the idea myself of "working" the pads to add variety and make more versatile arrangements. Maybe just have a basic bass and bass/snare drum pad playing and do the variations with the hi-hats, cymbals, etc. Especially with Latin numbers.

I really think those "pads" are the most important part of any arranger keyboard when used with imagination.

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#429786 - 03/12/17 05:08 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Mark79100]
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Thank you, thank you, the best of the best. If I come back this way again I'm not going to have any kids, I'm not gonna get married -- gonna buy me the best round hole guitar and acoustic amp money can buy and start taking lessons when I am three years old.

This made my day, John C.

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#429794 - 03/12/17 08:20 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Korg gives us a simple, quick way to mute all the arrangement tracks, and leave the bass and drums playing. I assign that feature to one of the trigger buttons near the joystick. I often start a song with no clutter, just adding my own right hand piano/strings etc to the rhythm, then after a few verses, maybe add the acc parts in for the busier sections. On my PA900 (as well as the 3x, 4x series) I designate the 3 buttons as follows for instant variety:
1) Lower On/Off (this is a manual bass tone)
2) Arr Bass On/Off
3) Arr 1-5 parts On/Off

If a song needs an acapella vocal break that has to follow chord changes for harmony - I can hit # 2 & 3 and continue to finger the chords. This way, the harmonies change and all that's playing is Bass and Drums. Very useful

If I want a manual bass line, I switch the chord recognition to RH, and hit # 1 & 2, so I can play my own bass line and the harmony follows my right hand. This is my preferred method.

Hitting #3 "thins out" an arrangement, making it more intimate for smaller settings. Very appropriate for many settings that are low volume situations. Digital backing sounds are SO much more believable when pushing some air, but not so much in quiet times.
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#429796 - 03/12/17 10:43 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Dave I like the way you think -- I already pick up this idea from you a while back. Yamaha has something like that but I prefer Korg's method.

I have 2 and 3 set up the same way. #1 is drum until I can think of a better one.

Thanks for the idea, John C.

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#429797 - 03/12/17 11:10 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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John, another useful "shut off" is the percussion track. Sometimes, the factory adds too much "fluff" to otherwise basic beats, and most small bands don't have the luxury of a dedicated percussionist, so taking away those 2 hands can clean up a mix!
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#429798 - 03/12/17 11:48 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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I have sliders assigned for volume on style parts and/or sections.
I use the three buttons like this:
1: Mic Delay on/off
2: default DNC control
3: Text File down

SO many options!
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#429799 - 03/12/17 01:12 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Like Don, I use sliders for part volumes, 12 always available...and 12 mute buttons.
I also have 5 dedicated soft keys for arranger options.

I also have 7 assign buttons..

I also have assignable pedals..


Now that is what I call options.. smile

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#429840 - 03/13/17 07:59 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Fran Carango]
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Originally Posted By Fran Carango
Like Don, I use sliders for part volumes, 12 always available...and 12 mute buttons.
I also have 5 dedicated soft keys for arranger options.

I also have 7 assign buttons..

I also have assignable pedals..


Now that is what I call options.. smile

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#429842 - 03/13/17 08:07 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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OOOO, that is COLD! smile
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#429844 - 03/13/17 08:34 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: DonM]
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surprised ... wink
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#429850 - 03/13/17 10:44 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By DonM
OOOO, that is COLD! smile


He knows I love him.
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#429851 - 03/13/17 11:00 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Just a couple of Philly/NJ guys having fun ...
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#429863 - 03/13/17 04:41 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By tony mads usa
Just a couple of Philly/NJ guys having fun ...

YUP!
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#429884 - 03/14/17 10:21 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Nice version Tony,

You failed to mention one of my favourites, Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs version.
I luved that song , way back when, I was a hell of a lot younger. Haha


Originally Posted By tony mads usa
After imbibing on the aforementioned 'goose' in guitpic1's thread, I decided to record and post this ...


My apologies to Eva, Judy, Don Mason, Jerry Lee and the rest ...


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#429885 - 03/15/17 02:14 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: rikkisbears]
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Originally Posted By rikkisbears

Nice version Tony,

You failed to mention one of my favourites, Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs version.
I luved that song , way back when, I was a hell of a lot younger. Haha



Here is Thorpie Rikki I know who you are talking about. I saw Billy many times live in the 70s around Melbourne.

Billy in the 60s


Billy before he died


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#429887 - 03/15/17 03:25 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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#429901 - 03/15/17 01:23 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Nigel]
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Hi Nigel,
thank you for the clips. Never actually got to see the the band live, just a fraction too young to go to the venues,haha , but certainly saw them on tv shows.

Put a smile on my face, seeing our friend and neighbor Colin behind Billy, playing drums.

Not sure if Colin ever got to see that other clip of Billy doing the song solo. Have to ask him.

Wow, that's half a century ago. Eek!





Originally Posted By Nigel


Here is Thorpie Rikki I know who you are talking about. I saw Billy many times live in the 70s around Melbourne.

Billy in the 60s


Billy before he died


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#429902 - 03/15/17 01:31 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Bernie9]
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Thanks Bernie..

Originally Posted By Bernie9
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#429910 - 03/15/17 05:43 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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To all,
Anyone tell me why I am not getting any of the clips, not only on this topic ?

Ray dance
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#429912 - 03/15/17 06:12 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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What browser are you using, and what online virus scanning programs are being used when browsing.

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#429921 - 03/16/17 05:56 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Hi Gary, Mozilla Firefox and Avast.
Have no problem with posts, just the attached clips on all topics.

Ray
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#429923 - 03/16/17 06:40 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: The Saint]
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Errrrrr, ohhhhh, oooops, OK. I forgot where we were.

Tony from the bottom of my heart, Great Job!!!
I would love to her more of Tony; post another song.

John C.

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#429930 - 03/17/17 02:33 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: The Saint]
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Originally Posted By The Saint
To all,
Anyone tell me why I am not getting any of the clips, not only on this topic ?

Ray dance


Don't know Ray. I am using Firefox and also Rikki is seeing them in Australia.

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#429931 - 03/17/17 02:44 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Another favorite is Stanley Jordan tapping on guitar


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#429948 - 03/17/17 06:28 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Hi Nigel, still did not get your next post !!
Maybe it is just related to u-tube ?
This humble aged plumber has difficulty with all this new technology. I will check locally with my techie friend.
Ray dance
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#429958 - 03/18/17 03:15 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: The Saint]
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Originally Posted By The Saint
Hi Gary, Mozilla Firefox and Avast.
Have no problem with posts, just the attached clips on all topics.

Ray


Can you see clips when you go to youtube.com ?

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#429959 - 03/18/17 04:06 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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No problem with u-tube Nigel, very puzzling ?
Ray
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#429960 - 03/18/17 04:28 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: The Saint]
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Years ago, maybe in the early seventies I attended a Gretch trade show. This man sat with a Gretch guitar on his lap facing up and played as a piano player would. Left hand chords or bass line, and melody and fill ins with his right.

There was another gentlemen who played an instrument called the Stick. If I remember correctly he played the Stick in the same manor but the instrument was upright.

In order for them to use this method of playing the guitar had to have raised frets with low action. I never gave this a try because I love playing guitar just as it was designed to play. (Preference)

John C.
PS, the video works just fine.

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#429962 - 03/18/17 06:53 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: bruno123]
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Originally Posted By bruno123
Errrrrr, ohhhhh, oooops, OK. I forgot where we were. Tony from the bottom of my heart, Great Job!!!
I would love to her more of Tony; post another song.

John C.


Thank you, but be careful what you ask for John ... grin
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#429970 - 03/18/17 09:56 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Tony I'm safe one of my ears is starting to go.

John C.

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#429998 - 03/19/17 05:42 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Now, for all those who were concerned !!!!! I have all the clips that were missing.
Apparently I needed a new tap washer, Oh! and my Firefox needed upgrading.
Problem solved, off to golf.
Ray dance
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#430488 - 04/06/17 04:06 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: bruno123]
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clap clap clap



clap bow clap


Edited by Dnj (04/06/17 04:12 PM)

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#430490 - 04/06/17 05:25 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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Where in the Hell is the video of Donny Pesce singing Over The Rainbow? smile

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#430495 - 04/06/17 11:28 PM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: tony mads usa]
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#430509 - 04/07/17 05:23 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Nigel]
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Originally Posted By Nigel



Nigel Awesomenss to the highest degree wow thanx! clap

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#430542 - 04/09/17 12:40 AM Re: OVER THE RAINBOW ... [Re: Dnj]
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You are right Donny. Stanley Jordan is magic. Such a unique playing style chording with the left hand while tapping melodic lines with the right. Sounds like 2 guitar players playing together. Such an original technique.

His technique is as notable as our friend from the forum Rory Hoffman. When Rory was interviewed by Guitar Player I bought that edition. Fantastic interview. Lots of discussion about his unique style. If you didn't see it here it is http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1013/rory-hoffman-self-made-man/25738



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