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#420776 - 05/01/16 07:08 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Bernie9]
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Originally Posted By: Bernie9
I always liked it a lot except for navigation.


agreed Bernie and that's always been my point all of today's arranger keyboards need to be urgently redesigned with Player NAVIGATION in Mind starting with Tilt Display being larger on ALL MODELS, optional tablet hookups, etc, etc, ...


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#420779 - 05/01/16 08:37 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Bernie9
I always liked it a lot except for navigation.


agreed Bernie and that's always been my point all of today's arranger keyboards need to be urgently redesigned with Player NAVIGATION in Mind starting with Tilt Display being larger on ALL MODELS, optional tablet hookups, etc, etc, ...


Thats what players agree on, seems however that the companies only want to add tilting screens to their high end arrangers.. Its one of those things they sadly use to make high end arrangers the only option that has it all...

And then many high end instruments, kronos, montage, jupiter 80, sd7, audya, kurzweil dont have tilting screens..


I think tyros, pax and oasys where the only keyboards so far with tilting screens, and thats why a seperate screen could be a solution
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#420780 - 05/01/16 08:56 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Bernie9
I always liked it a lot except for navigation.


agreed Bernie and that's always been my point all of today's arranger keyboards need to be urgently redesigned with Player NAVIGATION in Mind starting with Tilt Display being larger on ALL MODELS, optional tablet hookups, etc, etc, ...


Thats what players agree on, seems however that the companies only want to add tilting screens to their high end arrangers.. Its one of those things they sadly use to make high end arrangers the only option that has it all...

And then many high end instruments, kronos, montage, jupiter 80, sd7, audya, kurzweil dont have tilting screens..


I think tyros, pax and oasys where the only keyboards so far with tilting screens, and thats why a seperate screen could be a solution


Lets add Technics KN5000, 6000, 6500 7000 & Gem Genesys to the tilt display list too cool2


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Edited by Dnj (05/01/16 09:00 AM)

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#420781 - 05/01/16 08:58 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Dnj]
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#420782 - 05/01/16 09:03 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: PraiseTheLord]
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I think I had a Yamaha that had tilt screen. Maybe PSR 6100 or 6300?
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#420783 - 05/01/16 09:48 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
I think I had a Yamaha that had tilt screen. Maybe PSR 6100 or 6300?


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#420784 - 05/01/16 10:19 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Dnj]
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Okay, apparently i forgot about Gem and Technics.. Where it comes to tilt screens..

I only looked at current brands...

I think PSR 8000 had a good readable screen position, as well as the latest Casio piano's and the mz-x 500...
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#420785 - 05/01/16 10:43 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: PraiseTheLord]
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As to using a tablet with apps as a 'substitute' for a screen, it works in a lot of ways, but don't forget sometimes there are limitations if the apps are based on simple midi messages: for example, you cannot change the volumes of two parts independently if both parts are on the same midi channel. Some users experienced this problem with the Roland app for the Integra.

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#420786 - 05/01/16 10:57 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: Bachus]
rosetree
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Originally Posted By: Bachus

Normally i never thumb...

But i went back to give you thumbs up, i hope more people will do so.


Thank you!

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#420787 - 05/01/16 11:01 AM Re: Just Purchased a Roland BK-9 [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
As to using a tablet with apps as a 'substitute' for a screen, it works in a lot of ways, but don't forget sometimes there are limitations if the apps are based on simple midi messages: for example, you cannot change the volumes of two parts independently if both parts are on the same midi channel. Some users experienced this problem with the Roland app for the Integra.


We are not talking about mere midi apps.... We are talking about using the tablet as a full integrated part of the keyboard... I.e. Replacing the screen of the keyboard.. So the keyboard has more room for switches buttons knobs and other controll elements....

Another example would be an arranger module, with a buildin ipad stand on the back... High speed connection, largeHD screen, yet not the production cost of such a screen...

Or even more thinking out of the box, imagine a laptop running V-arranger, with a controll surface that you place on top of the keyboard/touchpad .. Giving you a nice module with direct controll area...
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