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#423696 - 07/22/16 11:49 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
rosetree
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Good news. However, after watching some thorough comparisons between Exos-9, Klipsch KMC-3 and Teufel Boomster XL I'm sure that it doesn't have such an incredible SPL. Surely very good for the money, but if you can get a reasonably cheap used Beoplay A8, it will be more powerful sound with less weight (4.3kg). Of course without batteries. But I would be curious to test the AIWA against my units...

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#423717 - 07/22/16 07:29 PM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
Torch Offline
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So how does the Beoplay A8 compare with Beolit 15?

Did some research on the brand, they are hard to find in the States. Very few reviews on the US Amazon, not that good, either. Someone mentioned a brand name Sonos. He said Sonos is much better than the A8. Sonos has hudreds of fantastic reviews. Many of these speakers are not found in local stores and thus hard to hear them yourselves. That' why I rely upon reviews of other users especially the informed like yourself.


Edited by Torch (07/22/16 07:45 PM)
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#423725 - 07/22/16 10:19 PM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
spalding1968 Offline
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The exos 9 has maximum spl of 100db. That's serious volume for a portable Bluetooth speaker and you have to take into account its cost to appreciate its value

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#423735 - 07/23/16 04:13 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: spalding1968]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: spalding1968
The exos 9 has maximum spl of 100db. That's serious volume for a portable Bluetooth speaker and you have to take into account its cost to appreciate its value



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#423738 - 07/23/16 05:50 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
rosetree
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100db SPL at 1 metre is not very much. The Klipsch KMC-3 is rated 105db at 0.5m, which corresponds to 99db at 1 metre. And it has considerably less Volume than The Beoplay A8 let alone The Sounddock 10. I also included The JBL Authentics L8 in my tests. It is rated 104 db @ 1 metre. Not even as loud as A8, let alone Sounddock 10.

Beolit 15 is powerless compared to A8. Totally different scale. 2 x 35W RMS vs. 2 x 105 W RMS.

(Sorry for my smartphone that inserts capital letters where they don't belong)


Edited by rosetree (07/23/16 06:25 AM)

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#423739 - 07/23/16 06:32 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
rosetree
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This is the comparison of AIWA against Boomster XL I was referring to. The Boomster XL is rated 102db, so still quite low in the ranking of JBL L8, Beoplay A8 and Sounddock 10. I wouldn't consider the Boomster XL anyway, as its weight is insane, 22 lbs, as much as the Nano 300 with its 116db. (BTW, the FBT J5a speakers are rated 113db @ 1m, with only 15 lbs weight per pair).


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#423741 - 07/23/16 06:52 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
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Edited by Dnj (07/23/16 07:01 AM)

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#423874 - 07/25/16 02:56 PM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
rosetree
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So this is my comparative recording of Beolit 15 (first) and Beoplay A8 at maximum volume, recorded behind a thin closed door again with the same recording settings.
I'm also attaching a picture showing the Audacity graphs of the recording (however these only indicate the maximum volume at the loudest frequency respectively).



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16g25-Beolit15-BeoplayA8.jpg

160723_HiTü-gleichmVerstärkt-Beolit15-BeoplayA8.mp3 (14 downloads)



Edited by rosetree (07/25/16 04:02 PM)

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#423881 - 07/26/16 05:39 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
jimlaing Offline
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Registered: 09/24/02
Posts: 527
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Thanks ... interesting - yes, the A8 sounds like it has more power, but they both sound similar re: overall frequencies covered? Would you say "sound quality wise" they are similar (or not)? Isn't the A8 about 20" long and requires A/C power, while the Beolit 15 is about 9" size and runs on batteries? Thanks for posting this!
-Jim
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#423884 - 07/26/16 06:24 AM Re: My next mini PA system? [Re: ]
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I have the IK Multimedia iLoud speaker, and an older Bose Soundlink II speaker, so I did some tests with them both last night. I had used the iLoud (with my keyboard) at modest-volume, mostly acoustic jam sessions and it performed well, but I had never compared them. Here are my observations.

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/iloud/

When I connected an iPhone and played some tunes to the speakers, the iLoud was very noticeably louder, and clearer than the Bose Sounlink II. The iLoud was also noticeably better in mids/highs than the Bose, to my ears. iLoud could get much louder and no distortion heard even at very loud volumes.

Then I connected both to my Tyros5. Again, I was (pleasantly) surprised with how loud and clear the iLoud was, compared to the Bose. I think the iLoud is rated 40W RMS, while the Bose (I read somewhere) is 20W.

The iLoud would definitely be loud enough for small-room gigs and moderate-volume jams. It could not compete with live drums, guitar amps, etc., but for modest jams, it has worked OK for me. Not for bass-heavy sounds, but for pianos, drawbar organs, or the 'arranger' turned on, all sound quite good, just can't expect a lot of thumping bass out of 3" woofers on the iLoud. Loud and clear and very good-sounding overall, but bass-drum / bass guitar sounds will be thin compared to bigger speakers.

The Bose, by itself (when not compared to something else) is a nice sounding speaker; it just doesn't get all that loud, and it's not as clear on highs as the iLoud.

If I could add even a very small subwoofer to the iLoud, I'll bet it would make a great sounding little system. . . .

I wonder if the Beolit 15 would be like an iLoud-on-steroids, i.e. louder and more bass, but still clear and crisp (I hope)?

-Jim
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