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#393984 - 09/30/14 02:16 PM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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Ian, I'll sell you old video camera for $25, which will cover the cost of the mic I just bought from Donny. wink

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#393987 - 09/30/14 02:43 PM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
No reason to get annoyed Ian just asking...... confused1


Yeah Ian, I can't imagine anyone finding DNJ annoying.

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#393989 - 09/30/14 02:51 PM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
No reason to get annoyed Ian just asking...... confused1


I'm not annoyed, Donny...read my earlier post again...I said I was having fun with my Tyros4...that's hardly being annoyed.

If posting videos of myself playing was something that interested me I'd be doing it.

I'm content posting an occasional MP3 of the Tyros4 to validate a certain point or to showcase a particular sound or style.

Ian
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#393991 - 09/30/14 03:08 PM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
Originally Posted By: Dnj
No reason to get annoyed Ian just asking...... confused1


Yeah Ian, I can't imagine anyone finding DNJ annoying.

smile

chas


Yes, it was a bit of an understatement, wasn't it?

For someone who frequently asks others to share videos (or recordings) of themselves playing their specific arranger, I do notice a paucity of equivalent demos being posted by the solicitor.

Ian
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#393997 - 09/30/14 10:56 PM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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Here is a better quality recording of the same guy going through the sounds and styles . Notice the quality of the sounds and the age of the musician . Look at how much fun he is having !

He starts playing styles at 13:54


Edited by spalding1968 (09/30/14 11:02 PM)

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#394000 - 10/01/14 05:18 AM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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you can see how the player gets inspired to create melodies and chord progression as he plays. This kind of freedom to literally arrange and create full expressions of musical ideas is just not possible with any other musical instrument. This is why I love my arranger keyboard !!!

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#394004 - 10/01/14 05:45 AM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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Originally Posted By: spalding1968
you can see how the player gets inspired to create melodies and chord progression as he plays. This kind of freedom to literally arrange and create full expressions of musical ideas is just not possible with any other musical instrument. This is why I love my arranger keyboard !!!


Any person that likes a particular instrument (Any type of instrument) will enjoy themselves playing as well as be inspired to make music, to say it can only be done easily on an arranger is nonsensical.

Since the first musical instruments were made people have always been inspired to make music. (The arranger is just one of 100s)

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#394005 - 10/01/14 06:35 AM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: abacus]
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Originally Posted By: abacus

Any person that likes a particular instrument (Any type of instrument) will enjoy themselves playing as well as be inspired to make music, to say it can only be done easily on an arranger is nonsensical.



I have to agree. I walk past my three arranger keyboards everyday on the way to my organ. I don't think I've touched any of them (except the BK7m, which I use as a drum machine for practicing) since I got my KeyB. That's probably just me, though, having a lifetime love affair with the sound and 'feel' of a jazz/gospel/rock Hammond B3. YMMV.

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#394008 - 10/01/14 07:11 AM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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Originally Posted By: spalding1968
you can see how the player gets inspired to create melodies and chord progression as he plays. This kind of freedom to literally arrange and create full expressions of musical ideas is just not possible with any other musical instrument. This is why I love my arranger keyboard !!!


I agree...most ordinary other instruments can play only up to three or four parts of an arrangement at the same time (like a Hammond with bass pedals and a drum machine), and the huge edge an arranger has over a workstation is it's immediacy.

To be able to sit down, switch it on, pick an appropriate style (which you can change at any time, including during play) and choose corresponding right and left hand sounds and then play a fully arranged piece is why I love my arranger as well.

It's fun, and some of us are still open-minded enough to remember what fun is.

An arranger can also be used as a workstation if the player so desires, so you literally have the best of both worlds. You can add bass pedals (if so inclined) and a second manual so it can easily become even more flexible.

I certainly don't think we'll ever fully convince either the purists or the geeks (sometimes they are both one and the same wink ) to embrace the arranger as we have, but who cares?

Let them criticize all they like...critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.

It's simply their loss and our gain.

Ian

PS...ever notice the scarcity of live play uploads by users who seem to believe their alternative instrument is better than an arranger?
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#394009 - 10/01/14 07:50 AM Re: Watch how much fun an arranger can be [Re: spalding1968]
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As usual, any suggestion that an arranger kb may not be God's greatest gift to mankind, is immediately greeted with a not-so-subtle undertone of hostility accompanied by strong arguments of why it IS. The fact that I currently own 4 arrangers and have owned others in the past MUST mean that I don't 'hate' arrangers. The fact that I enjoy playing my organ more is nothing more than personal preference and shouldn't be attacked or need to be defended. I prefer beef but that doesn't mean I hate pork, chicken, and fish. I'll just reach for the steak first, is all.

I REALLY don't want to start a nasty back-and-forth, so PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, don't post a snarky reply. A lot of people I know hate organs but they're still friends. I'm a big proponent of the 'different strokes' theory.

chas
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