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#371045 - 08/25/13 05:28 PM Polderbits
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Does anybody here know of or use Polderbits for recording from the KN 7000 to the computer? It was suggested to me that I download it, but my computer keeps giving me a message that it is "malware" and I am unable to do so. I'm looking for a good program to use because the Technics software does not work in newer computers with upgrades in its OS. Thanks for any assistance.

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#371055 - 08/26/13 02:23 AM Re: Polderbits [Re: Ted Rose]
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Nothing wrong with Polderbits Ted, but here's another option - http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
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#371090 - 08/26/13 03:47 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: RMepstead]
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Hi Ted, just to agree with Roger,Audacity is a great program and easy to use,even better is that they are still working on future extra add-on's so development is still improving.
Regards John.

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#371098 - 08/26/13 10:33 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: RMepstead]
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Like Roger suggested Audacity is a great free alternative for PC recording software. You can't go wrong using that.

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#371414 - 08/31/13 06:57 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: Nigel]
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Thanks to all of you who took time to respond. Have downloaded both programs, this time without any problems. Anxious to try them out!

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#371741 - 09/07/13 06:41 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: Ted Rose]
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As I already wrote, I now have both Polderbits and Audacity downloaded. (Just got an email message that the latter (Audacity) has been updated). One last question: when I connect my KN 7000 to my computer what plugs do I use from the keyboard and to the computer? Again, thanks for all you conti8nued assistance always!

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#371756 - 09/08/13 09:42 AM Re: Polderbits [Re: Ted Rose]
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Hi Ted - As far as the keyboard is concerned you can either use the stereo headphones socket or the two main out mono sockets in the rear of your keyboard.
As far as the computer is concerned you are looking for a microphone-in point and it may well be a smaller socket point so getting a length of cable to match the holes is a challenge...
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#371769 - 09/08/13 02:26 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: RMepstead]
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Originally Posted By: RMepstead
Hi Ted - As far as the keyboard is concerned you can either use the stereo headphones socket or the two main out mono sockets in the rear of your keyboard.
As far as the computer is concerned you are looking for a microphone-in point and it may well be a smaller socket point so getting a length of cable to match the holes is a challenge...


You can find a cheap adapter to convert any type of plug into another.

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#371779 - 09/08/13 07:08 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: RMepstead]
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As usual, the answer to my query! This place is unbelievable and I am constantly amazed at the knowledge and willingness to share that I always find! Thank you again, my dear friends. My appreciation is boundless! dance

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#371793 - 09/09/13 05:26 AM Re: Polderbits [Re: Ted Rose]
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Hi Ted, If you have already installed the USB drivers for the Panasonic SD card reader you can just use the USB lead to transfer
either audio or data for SD explorer.
Regards John
P.S. I use this for the audio input to Audacity and the audio output from the KN7 is digital down the USB cable so no conversion in KN to analog and back again in the computer to give a digital signal to record.


Edited by jd5live (09/09/13 05:42 AM)

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#371806 - 09/09/13 12:29 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: Ted Rose]
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Never thought of doing that JD - it's not a very long cable though is it going from memory..?
My keyboard is about 8 metres away from my PC.
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#371815 - 09/09/13 02:31 PM Re: Polderbits [Re: RMepstead]
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Without a doubt, the best way to transfer/record files from KN7000 to a computer, is to use the Digital USB link. I use this method exclusively rather than the analogue audio method. I have a small 'Netbook' PC running WIndows XP, which sits on my KN7000 music stand (since I don't use the stand for anything else smile )

From what I understand from Ted's original posting, his computer has an operating system later than Windows XP - either Vista, Windows 7 or Windows 8.

Unfortunately, The Song Manager program and the USB system drivers originally supplied with the KN7000, which are normally used to transfer file data between the KN7000 and a PC, will not work on these later operating systems - they were designed for Windows 98SE and Windows XP.

However, Windows 7 has a 'Compatibility Mode' which may allow programs designed to run on XP, to operate within Windows 7, but there is a snag - isn't there always??
Only the following Windows 7 versions include this option : Win7 Professional, Ultimate and Enterprise. The more common Win7 versions : Starter, Home Basic and Home Premium, do not include this facility.

I don't have access to a PC with Windows 8 installed, so have little experience of that Operating System. Having done a search on the internet, I found a couple of references which may prove useful.....

1. http://www.microsoft.com/business/en-ie/whats-new/pages/article.aspx?cbcid=71
2. http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6832-compatibility-mode-use-windows-8-a.html

Roger, USB cables are available in lengths up to 5 metres, which is the recommended maximum limit according to the USB2 specification. The cable required is a Type A plug to a Type B plug. There is a way to overcome this length limitation, but it involves using a device called a powered 'Hub' to be inserted say half way along your required 8 metre cable run, to boost the signal - maybe not a practical solution in your case??

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#371940 - 09/13/13 01:19 AM Re: Polderbits [Re: Bill Norrie]
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The other disadvantage of using the analog recording method is that many PCs only have a monophonic microphone input rather than a stereo line in which makes it more difficult to make a stereo recording. The USB digital input certainly sounds like the way to go if possible.

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