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#368835 - 07/09/13 04:19 PM Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question
bruno123 Offline
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I am using a Bose Compact and a Korg pa800.

Is there a way to send the keyboard out with one output to the Bose and then send my microphone with effects out the second output to the Bose microphone channel?

I know that both the keyboard and the microphone can go out on one output of the Kor, but I am trying to get my microphone to go into the microphone channel of the Bose with effects..

John C.

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#368864 - 07/10/13 07:08 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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Only if the Korg has a secondary output that can be dedicated for just the mic with effects.

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#368866 - 07/10/13 08:24 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: travlin'easy]
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Thanks Gary, John C.

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#368873 - 07/10/13 11:08 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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I don't believe that many arrangers have this. My G70 does, but the BK-9 doesn't. I don't believe the T4 has a mike only output pair, nor the PA3Xpro. And I'm fairly sure no MOTL arranger does.
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#368876 - 07/10/13 11:31 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: Diki]
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PA800 has main lr outputs,plus two more outs that you can asign what do you want to put through those once. But if I can remember those are dry outputs.So no efx.I am not sure.I sold my pa800 long time ago.
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#368878 - 07/10/13 11:31 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: Diki]
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Gary, Diki,
Since I am using only one output channel on the pa800 to Bose, if I was to pan left for the keyboard and then pan right for the microphone --- does that sound like a possibility?

I just made that up – kinda stupid eh? There are A & B outputs on the keyboard. Forget the manual.

Well, I’m trying, John C.

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#368879 - 07/10/13 11:48 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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John,

I'll take a look at the manual and see if there's something you can do along those lines, but from what I recall, I don't believe it was possible. Not a stupid question, though. If you can do it, it would be a neat feature.

I have to go to the dentist for a short appointment, then I'll try to find something for you.

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#368884 - 07/10/13 01:26 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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John,

I just scanned the manual and it appears that you cannot assign just the mic to an output channel. However, a good workaround would be to use a small mixer with effects, then output the mixer to the Bose L1 Compact's mic input channel, which would provide you with a separate volume and EQ control. Or, if you need harmony, use a TC Helicon Harmony-M, which provides you with a great sound reverb, vocal harmony, and other neat effects. Fire the Harmony-M's output into the Bose L1 Compact Mic input and you've got the best of both both worlds.

Hope this helps,

Gary cool
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#368892 - 07/10/13 04:17 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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The PA800 manual suggests that you can pan all instruments to right output and microphone to the left output.

Page 94 says that you can pan all instrument tracks from full right to full left

Page 234 covers the voice processor, and says that the Pan knob adjusts panning for the Lead voice. L64 (panned fully left) to R63 (panned fully right).

good luck

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#368893 - 07/10/13 04:27 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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I read that part too, Duane, but I'm not sure if the accompaniment can be separated from the Mic. Unfortunately, I'm working blind on this one, and can only go by the manual, which like all user manuals, is poorly writen and constructed.

Good Luck,

Gary cool
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#368898 - 07/10/13 06:42 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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You can assign all the keyboard sounds, styes etc. to the dry outs and have only the mic come from the main outs ... IF you can live with the unprocessed signal for all your other sounds. Sounds like the dual mono approach may be the ticket for you, since the Bose is mono anyway.
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#368902 - 07/10/13 07:18 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: Uncle Dave]
sparky589 Offline
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I looked at the manual too. Strange that it would have 4 outputs but not alot of options to assign them. Ketron Sd5 has in & out...I know that doesn't help you.
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#368905 - 07/10/13 08:08 PM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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G70 gives you main stereo, two independent (but effects free) outputs AND a stereo pair with the mike output and VH and mike effects on it. They sure went overboard on it!
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#368921 - 07/11/13 06:27 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: Diki]
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#368928 - 07/11/13 09:24 AM Re: Korg pa 800 Bose Compact Question [Re: bruno123]
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Agreed! I always wanted to run the HB section through my Motion Sound Leslie, but couldn't do it.

Fortunately, the BK-9's drawbar section fixes every single complaint I had with the G70's, and more! I no longer feel the need for an external Leslie, and honestly think the drawbar section compares very well against the Nord's and Hammond clones out there.

Obviously, at a good $1500 or so less than the G70, the BK-9 cuts a few corners. There are no longer additional outputs, for the mike section or the arranger Parts. But this is in line with what other arrangers do at this price point.

In truth, I will still most likely in most circumstances use my mike into a normal mixer rather than plug it into the BK. Unless circumstances force me into a gig situation where there is only one house input available and I can't use my PA, I can see no advantage to using the BK-9's input.

Unfortunately, I think they skimped on a couple of things on the input. They do have a programmable EQ for the mike input, and a reverb, but I have not yet found any documentation on how to program the reverb, and I would really have liked a programmable echo as well (tempo synced would be great). My mixer provides this (and powers my top cabs).

But the loss of the VH affects me not at all. I hate those things! At least the ones built into arrangers..!
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