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#362235 - 02/26/13 01:54 PM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
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I generally take out the horns and strings and pads in country styles. Most of the time I like to sound like a small combo, not an orchestra. I could be happy with drums, bass, piano and guitar strum, maybe an organ here and there in some styles.
My lead sounds are guitars, piano, sax, organ, harmonica, Cajun accordion, more or less in that order. I use vibes on some jazz songs and an occasional EP. That's about it. DonM
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#362244 - 02/26/13 04:48 PM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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Much of this depends upon the style itself. Some are a bit too busy, while others may need the assistance of multi-pads. There's no hard, fast rule when it comes to styles, at last as far as I'm concerned. Cheers, Gary
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#362254 - 02/26/13 08:11 PM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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I take out everything I can play myself. Depends on the song, but I've played live bands all my life. Few of them had horns, string sections, rhythm AND lead keyboard players... I was expected to do all that myself. I usually had a bass player, a drummer and one guitarist. And we managed to pull it off...
So, primarily, all I want is that rhythm section. The rest should be me. I don't do bigband, so no-one is expecting an 18 piece band. The minute you start allowing the machine to take over, you dilute what YOU are doing. The audience rarely knows what is playing what, but they can smell out when more is being played than one man can possibly do!
I want my audience to know, when they hear me, that it's ME...
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#362271 - 02/27/13 06:29 AM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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John, without having the keyboard directly in front of me, I'll have to provide the best information I can from off the top of my head. Press the Mixing Console button twice, this will open the page that allows you to select the the various components of the style itself. To change that instrument, press the button adjacent to the "Voice" line, then using the 1 through 8 buttons at the bottom of the display, select the individual instrument. At this point you can tab to effects, and make an changes you wish. You can then select the Digital Recording/Style Creator, make additional changes, press execute, press save, the provide the style with a User/Third-party name and save it to the user area, either on the USB drive, or internal memory. Keep in mind, though, that the internal memory area is quite limited in size. Hope this helps, Gary
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#362272 - 02/27/13 06:37 AM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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"The audience rarely knows what is playing what, but they can smell out when more is being played than one man can possibly do!"Diki, do you really believe they actually care? C'mon, they came there to be entertained, and I seriously doubt that they give a Tinker's Damned about how those sounds are being created as long as they are having fun. Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (02/27/13 06:37 AM)
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#362289 - 02/27/13 01:49 PM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
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I leave everything in. I'm with Donny on this one, I want everything the keyboard has and then I still fill with my right hand. I waited too many years to play with a big band. Now I have one and I don't have to keep up the payroll. There are certain songs that for effect I'll just play piano or guitar but for the most part, I want it full and up front. Joe
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#362324 - 02/28/13 09:15 AM
Re: How Much do you STRIP Down your Styles & Why?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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I think what people expect is what they expect from YOU!. I get lots of people say, "see, he's actually playing".
Rarely do I get, "do you have.....", expecting a pre-recorded "something".
But, that's what I do, and I'm not saying even one person here or on a bandstand anywhere should do the same.
My jobs are mostly dinners before meetings or jazz performances. At dinner jobs, you play to be noticed, but not get in the way.
At jazz performances, people hang onto your every phrase. They actually come up and watch your hands. They interact a lot with you. Arrangers (at least, played in full arranger mode)are off the table for these jobs.
But we're talking different animals here.
R.
PS. Just look at Nigel's boys, Chick and Return to Forever, or my guys, Foreplay, to see how much 4 players who really cook can really do.
Edited by captain Russ (02/28/13 09:17 AM)
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