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#347034 - 07/15/12 06:25 PM
Re: Thinking out loud...again
[Re: montunoman]
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Señor Carango, I suggest that you don’t think so much in terms of heavy vs. lightweight gear. Think more in term of efficiency. In other words you should want a rig that you can set up and tear down quickly. Forget about laptops, vocal processor units, extra pedals and other stuff that you have to plug in. I think an important part of these types of gigs besides playing/singing great old tunes is to somehow be socially engaged with your audience. That’s hard to do when you’re busy setting up/tearing down. Try to keep that to a minimum. If I had your gear (and I wish I did!) this is what I’d bring:
Roland BK 5. The mp3 player will be GREAT when you’re setting up. I try to get to my gigs early. The thing is once the old folks see me come in they all start heading for the rec room. It sure would be nice to have some nice background music on while they are waiting around.
Roland BA 330. Just plug your keyboard and your mic and your ready to go. No need for a mixer or vocal processor. It already has good reverb. What else do you need? Keyboard stand with a attached mic stand (something like Uncle Dave uses)
There you have it- a keyboard, speaker, KB stand with a mic stand, a mic, a mic cable, and KB cable. Hopefully you don’t have to read charts like me but if you do the BK5 has a music rest which you can put your book or ipad on. Keep it simple and welcome back to the senior circuit. That was my exact intention..your proposed set up...and that is exactly what I used today..without a single problem Knowing this room now...I know the BA330 and BK5 can do the job....but I did not know earlier, so I packed up a Roland Cube in case I needed more sound power..and they weigh 70 pounds each. Set up time was about 5 minutes, including the V-Stand and mic boom....BTW: the G70 and a Cube on the V-Stand is just as fast, maybe a bit faster When I am set up, the comfort level on the G70 is far and away better for me.It is not just the harmonizer, but mic volume control and effects as well as any balance I need to adjust is right in front of me....I can use play-list on both units (BK5 and G70), but the G70 gives me more flexibility...and the search feature is better on the G70 for special request... I didn't even touch base about the advantage of the superior 76 keys compared to the lighter touch 61 on the BK.. What I am saying..there are concessions using the BK5 that I use and enjoy with the G70.. Is it worth hauling a heavier keyboard...To me YES...it is not a big deal for me to lift a 46 pound keyboard up on a stand...when everything is on board the G70.. If I would use the G70..I would pretty much always use a Cube..I just like 15's, and I know I have the coverage... The last 6 locations I played in senior centers...the BA330 was more than enough, although this was the first of the six jobs that I used the BA330..(I chose to carry the Cube)...I split the keyboard duties 3 and 3.. Don't get me wrong..I enjoyed playing the BK5 and BA330...they did the job,, sounded great too...and for a one hour in and out job..I guess I shouldn't complain...I am just spoiled..
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#347058 - 07/16/12 08:06 AM
Re: Thinking out loud...again
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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I found out a long time ago, that balance is important when it comes to music...making music and a living making music...
....the benefits of music, should never be the monetary gain...
Yep, I agree, and burnout is very possible doing the same type of gigs for a long time. Plus, doing what you love, is not work, and, generally you end up making more benefits, many of them not monetary. My philosophy is that one should never focus that much time on making a good living, that one neglects making a good life. Ian
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#347090 - 07/16/12 11:59 AM
Re: Thinking out loud...again
[Re: brickboo]
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Senior Member
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7285
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Fran, I understand. I still use an 80 lb Solton MS 60 on short jobs. Heavy as hell! I like the sound and the on-board speakers.
I also use a 2nd keyboard on my right hand or over the Solton (or SD-5, sometimes). I take a guitar, guitar amplifier, at least two speakers and a powered monitor on EVERY job now.
The mini Korg is nice, but I'm not sure I will ever use it by itself.
that said, if I play an hour, it takes me an hour to set up and tear down.
I can see the temptation to go lighter and smaller, especially if you do 500 jobs a year. I do 250 or so, and plan to continue to use what I'm using for the near future.
It helps that I have a son and another factory worker who are available to haul and help hook up.
R.
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#347116 - 07/16/12 02:49 PM
Re: Thinking out loud...again
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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You are probably right Donny...personally, I love having the time off right now...when I want to get back at it, I will...that's why I keep playing at home...to keep the chops up, and so I don't have to dust the keys.
Getting work was never an issue for me, but having time off is also important to most of us pros.
It's all about balance, baby, balance!
Keep your stick on the ice.
Ian
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Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.
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#347154 - 07/17/12 03:08 AM
Re: Thinking out loud...again
[Re: cgiles]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5351
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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..That is my stage friend in the middle (pink bikini).. Ok, so now we know why you "can't afford to own a Audya , Korg PA3X, or Tyros4..". Those pink bikinis don't come cheap . However, you're in good company. In a blind test between a TOTL arranger and a well stuffed pink bikini, 9 out of 10 men chose the well stuffed bikini (interestingly, the tenth guy plays a Wersi). chas Hi Chas Do you know who this 10th guy is, as we will definitely be ejecting him from the Wersi Club if he puts a keyboard before a Bikini? Bill
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