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#34446 - 11/26/09 01:39 PM Rotor in Midjay Plus
muzygog Offline
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Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 5
Loc: Poland
Hi
I've tried to run rotor via MIDI in MJ+. In midi implementation chart I found information:
CC30 = 0 off
CC30 = 64 slow
CC30 = 127 fast
I've tried to send this commands from Cubase to MJ+, but it doesn't work.
I've used all organ sounds from MJ+.

Has anybody tried to do it?

I have request to SD-5 users:
Could You spy what message is sending through MIDI out while pressing ROTOR ON, SLOW, FAST?

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#34447 - 11/27/09 09:21 PM Re: Rotor in Midjay Plus
--Mac Offline
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 307
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
Well, I only know about the SD2 and SD4 sound modules (and also I have the the MIDJAY, but not a +, it is the same way) rotor, but as it turns out, those CC30's will only work in the Tonewheel Organ or Drawbar section.

The Rotor control will not work on the Organ Patches in the MIDI banks. Boo.

Quote:

Mac...
I had sent your question about the SD2 to italy and here is the answer i got..
QUESTION #1
1) Page 42 of the manual states that CONTROL 1EH (CC30) should control the Rotor for the tonewheel organ.
…..You are in right!!!
2) Myself and at least three others who own SD2 units have not been able to get the Rotor to work at all.
…..In order to select ROTOR ( or Leslie ) you have to use firstly this EXCLUSIVE strings
TYPE EFFECTS CHANNEL ASSIGN
F0H 26H 7BH 0BH 00H Chan Type F7H ------------- F0 26 7B 0B 00 02 01 F7 then send CC30 at 0, 64 or 127
Chan: 00H - 1FH Type: 0 = no effects 3 = Chorus
1 = Leslie 4 = Delay
3) 2 = Distorsor
……on CHAN you have to select which track you would use than on TYPE select 1 (Leslie )
Don’t forget ….Leslie or Rotor work instead of Chorus ( or Distortion or Delay as showed on page 44 )
3) We can get the tonewheel organ drawbars to work just fine, also some of the other effects, using conversions of hexadecimal to the proper CC numbers, as one would expect.
At the bottom of Owner manual there’s an example of it :
DRAWBARS SELECTION
Controller 0 Value 67 Bank MSB Program Change 0
Drawbar Controller: 20 = 16’ Value: 0-127 24 = 2 2/3 Value: 0-127 28 = percussion 4’ Value: 0-127
21 = 8’ Value: 0-127 25 = 2’ Value: 0-127 29 = percussion 2’ 2/3 Value: 0-127
22 = 5 1/3’ Value: 0-127 26 = 1’ 3/5 Value: 0-127
23 = 4’ Value: 0-127 27 = 1’ Value: 0-127
I.E ( in order to send a drawbars data 16’- 8’- 4’)
Controller 0 value 67 Controller 20 value 127 (16’) Controller 23 value 127 (4’)
Program change 0 Controller 21 value 127 (8’)
..no needs an hexadecimal value ..but simple Controllers
Is there perhaps a misprint in the manual or is there something we are missing that we need to do?
We need the Rotor function.
In detail ..to obtain Rotor you have to switch before between Chorus ( or else ) and than will have Rotor….


My questions are interspersed above with answers via email from Ketron Italy. I think you can figure out which is which as this forum won't copy the text color changes that originally denoted that.

Maybe that is the same situation with the Audya.


--Mac

[This message has been edited by --Mac (edited 11-27-2009).]
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#34448 - 11/27/09 09:31 PM Re: Rotor in Midjay Plus
--Mac Offline
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 307
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia, USA
Also -- It sounds best in Stereo.

Through a mono amp, for some reason the FM content is vague and the AM starts sounding like a tremelo guitar amp to me.

Its not the greatest Leslie simulator in the world, but it does help and is much better than nothing at all.

But it ain't no 122/147, 'K?


--Mac
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"Keep listening. Never become so self-important that you can't listen to other players. Live cleanly....Do right....You can improve as a player by improving as a person. It's a duty we owe to ourselves." --John Coltrane

"You don't know what you like, you like what you know. In order to know what you like, you have to know everything." --Branford Marsalis

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#34449 - 12/03/09 12:15 PM Re: Rotor in Midjay Plus
muzygog Offline
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Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 5
Loc: Poland
Thank You very much.
Very proffesional help.

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