Hi Folks

I'm just wondering am I one of the few on this forum who uses

a volume/expression pedal when gigging with my arranger. I

find I cant play without it, as I need it for phrasing

strings, brass............basically all the sounds except the

pianos.I think it comes from my days playing my Hammond X5

organ and I always feel comfortable with my volume pedal, I

feel more in control of my sounds

Just wondering?

Frank

I do all the time. most old organ players do, I suspect.


R.

I do when playing Hammond/KeyB but not with the Audya, just sustain/footswitch.

Use it all the time, absolutely essential on my gigs. Not only does it give vintage organs more life, I constantly use it to boost solo volume then again tone down my right hand while I sing.

Couldn't live without (using MFC-10 with Tyros4).

I do all the time(an old organ player).

I must admit, however, that my wife has to get on me for riding the pedal on non organ sounds( she's right).

I use a volume/expression pedal (EV-5) to bring in a "color" sound...As an example, while playing piano, I may want to bring in organ or strings as my "color' tone, usually blending with the piano..The EV-5 can also cross fade between two or more tones...

If I have my G70 on the job, you will find the EV-5 pedal on the floor..

That's a good point Fran. It is important to distinguish an expression pedal from a volume pedal. Depending on the settings, they may or may not be the same.

I use it much in the same way on my Tyros 2. Also some voices seem to be louder or softer than others so I need to constantly adjust.

On my KMA I feel like I can get by just fine without a volume pedal because it has dedicated sliders that adjust the style or RH voice volume. I guess if I had an organ background I'd still need to use the volume pedal though.

same here, the audya has 9 physical sliders for each part. When we run the Audya 4 through the KeyB we don't use the pedal to change the arranger - just the organ - I think thats the way it should be.

Most wind and string instruments vary in volume (Some more than others) therefore without an expression pedal you can’t make them sound anything like how the real instruments play. (Many also change their sound s they get louder)

In addition when you are playing Melody and counter melody with your right and left hand simultaneously, (And bass if you have a set of pedals attached) you haven’t got any spare to move any physical sliders

Listen to any orchestra or band and you will find it is not a monotone sound but is a really expressive performance, something that can’t be done on any arranger without an expression pedal. (No matter what the sales blurb says)

Bill

I use 2 expression pedals all the time... You just cant play organ without a vollume pedal.. But i also love to assign the peddals to various midi parameters like filer cuttoffs and other effects and controll with my feet in real time.

What Fran said. I'm a big fan of bringing Strings in behind my Piano with the EV5 and my G1000. I do some other mixes too.

Thanks for the tip Fran. I used to do it with velocity but I like the pedal better since I read your post a while back

Bill in NJ

isn't that what touch sensitivity is for?

Hi

Get yourself any music score of orchestral or band music (Not Organ) and you will find expression instructions and dynamic instructions, (Touch Sensitivity) as they are not anywhere close to being the same.

Bill

*just looking for the volume pedal socket on my acoustic piano and classical guitar*

Have a listen to how real music sounds and instruments intereact, (NOT an electronic equivalent) to see why an expression pedal is so useful, this will give you a better idea of what I metioned in my previous post, better than any words.

Hope this helps

Bill

I think you misunderstood my usage of the pedal. Yes, I use the touch sensitivity for the piano sound and then use the pedal to bring the strings or whatever else into the mix. More control this way for me.


Bill in NJ

Touch sensitivity is use for the volume and charasteristics of a single note.

With a volume pedal you can controll the volume of all notes of a single performance... you can create certain effects this way, that you could never do using touch sensitivity.

All great organ performances from the past where played on non touchsensitive keyboards and to recreate those performances, you require the volume pedal for the volume controll.

Or when playing a sax, you can slowly increasy the loudless of the note you're playing with the pedal (as a real sax player could by blowing harder) while your touch sensitivity only allows you to controll the initial volume of a note.

In such way to recreate accoustic instruments, a volume pedal is an awesome tooll too.