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#339725 - 02/14/12 04:25 AM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
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#339944 - 02/15/12 10:51 PM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
[Re: Dnj]
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Bill,
If you wanted to sit down and play a Wersi Abacus Pro, where could you do it.
Tony Last time we tried to find a wersi dealer around here in PA ....when they got there it turned into a Liquor store with a faded WERSI sign behind the New Liquor store one..  The kiss of death with a Wersi, here today, gone today, at least Ketron, however bad they are, they have managed to weather the storm, I have not got a clue why, perhaps DonM, Bernie8, Robbo, and me for buying one , if I missed someone don't be offended.  Donny, do you like the Wesri Wing, according to Billy Abacus if you buy a Wing and you will never buy another KB ever again, not certain what that really meant, ween you off KBs altogether, perhaps Donny you better buy one, don't pay by Paypal pal, not in a music shack near you and Frankie is not a dealer. Looks like a flight to Germany Donny. Regards good Buddy. Your Mate Tony
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#340001 - 02/16/12 01:45 PM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
[Re: Tony Hughes]
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Registered: 01/27/01
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Bill,
If you wanted to sit down and play a Wersi Abacus Pro, where could you do it.
Tony Last time we tried to find a wersi dealer around here in PA ....when they got there it turned into a Liquor store with a faded WERSI sign behind the New Liquor store one.. The kiss of death with a Wersi, here today, gone today, at least Ketron, however bad they are, they have managed to weather the storm, I have not got a clue why, perhaps DonM, Bernie8, Robbo, and me for buying one , if I missed someone don't be offended. Donny, do you like the Wesri Wing, according to Billy Abacus if you buy a Wing and you will never buy another KB ever again, not certain what that really meant, ween you off KBs altogether, perhaps Donny you better buy one, don't pay by Paypal pal, not in a music shack near you and Frankie is not a dealer. Looks like a flight to Germany Donny. Regards good Buddy. Your Mate Tony Tony, in all due respect, I don't enjoy flaming a brand of keyboard unless it's in the context of referring to real specs or qualities of that keyboard. You're being disrespectful to the people who enjoy the Wersi. I've never even seen a Wersi, and my impression is that I couldn't afford one, so it's no skin off my back ... but well I said what I said. BTW, usually I enjoy your posts.
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#340040 - 02/17/12 06:49 AM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
[Re: abacus]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
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Yamaha Styles:
Yes the Wersi will play them directly WITHOUT conversion up to the T2, (OAS 7 instruments require the OAA which has been standard for a number of years and is also available as a cost option upgrade for earlier OAS 7 instruments) however it does not come with any Yamaha styles, these have to be provided by the user.
Yamaha Mega Voices, Sounds & Drums:
Wersi has programmed its own voice set to match the Yamaha format, (They are not copied (Sampled) from a Yamaha) however because the Yamaha & Wersi use different sound engines they will never sound exactly the same, in addition they are also the programmers interpretation of the Yamaha sounds, so while the styles are the same, only the user can decide whether it suits them or not. (Remember many like Yamaha styles but not necessarily the smooth CD sound of a Yamaha)
All modern arranger keyboards are software NOT hardware; however they are closed systems that can only work on one specific type of hardware (Which normally in itself has limited expansion headroom) which cannot be upgraded when new features require an upgrade. (Hence you have to buy a new keyboard to get an upgrade of what went before)
The fact that nothing is copied sampled or supplied (Unless the dealer decides to throw some styles in) means there is no infringement of other manufactures copyrights.
You will also see on any full Wersi information brochure etc. that it does say that Yamaha, Akai and VST are the copyright of their respective companies.
NOTE: I am not a legal expert, but all the dealers, programmers and manufactures I have spoken to, have said exactly the same as I have said above.
Hope this makes things a bit clearer
Bill
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#340090 - 02/17/12 05:43 PM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
[Re: abacus]
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 570
Loc: Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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Yamaha Styles:
Yes the Wersi will play them directly WITHOUT conversion up to the T2, (OAS 7 instruments require the OAA which has been standard for a number of years and is also available as a cost option upgrade for earlier OAS 7 instruments) however it does not come with any Yamaha styles, these have to be provided by the user.
Yamaha Mega Voices, Sounds & Drums:
Wersi has programmed its own voice set to match the Yamaha format, (They are not copied (Sampled) from a Yamaha) however because the Yamaha & Wersi use different sound engines they will never sound exactly the same, in addition they are also the programmers interpretation of the Yamaha sounds, so while the styles are the same, only the user can decide whether it suits them or not. (Remember many like Yamaha styles but not necessarily the smooth CD sound of a Yamaha)
All modern arranger keyboards are software NOT hardware; however they are closed systems that can only work on one specific type of hardware (Which normally in itself has limited expansion headroom) which cannot be upgraded when new features require an upgrade. (Hence you have to buy a new keyboard to get an upgrade of what went before)
The fact that nothing is copied sampled or supplied (Unless the dealer decides to throw some styles in) means there is no infringement of other manufactures copyrights.
You will also see on any full Wersi information brochure etc. that it does say that Yamaha, Akai and VST are the copyright of their respective companies.
NOTE: I am not a legal expert, but all the dealers, programmers and manufactures I have spoken to, have said exactly the same as I have said above.
Hope this makes things a bit clearer
Bill
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill I said the Wing has first class sounds and features, what I would have liked to have said as well is, that I have heard another keyboard manufactures style Ketron/Yamaha that was converted to the wersi, and it either sounded as good if not better. The styles I heard in the promo video, I did not like at all. I know its a personal preference thing, but I think thats why Yamaha, Ketron and Roland have the larger market share. So If you can oblige me with that, a demo that makes me a believer, then I will stand corrected, and will want to be updating to the wing.
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#340152 - 02/18/12 09:36 AM
Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse
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61!
, a Black T5 would be in the launchpad as well 
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