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#335846 - 01/11/12 12:55 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Originally Posted By: 124
Now that's got me curious. One of the trumpets on my Pa1XPro has a 'tail-up' on some notes. This, of course, is long before DNC came along on Korgs and the effect is, as far as I can discern, totally unpredictable in that I'm never sure when a note is going to do that. I've tried to trigger it with different finger attacks, etc., but it's an elusive little bugger. Don't get me wrong, I do like the effect, but I'd like it even more if I could control when it occurs. Would this be similar to the randomness of the Yamaha sax's scoops and slides you describe?
Cheers, 124.


With most of the SA2 Saxophones, a slide is available by holding the note, and while it's being held, play another note a 7th, maj7th, or octave higher and you get the slide...it isn't like the portamento type slide you get when you put a voice in mono...it is almost a glissando...a very fast one, and it sounds exceptionally accurate.

The same effect (on SA2 Sax) can be triggered by using Art.2 Button...and, a smaller pitch bend/slide is triggered by Art.1 Button.

These effects aren't random, but under the player's control.

Is that particular 'tail up' trumpet sound (on your PA1XPro) a monophonic voice?

Ian

The S900/S910 do not have SA2 voices...just SA1...but they are excellent and very expressive.


Hi Ian,

I spent a bit of time singling out that trumpet, it's labelled Trumpet Pro 2. Quite by accident, because of playing it singly in Sound mode, I noticed the tail-up occurs only on the softest touch of a key. As for being a mono or stereo voice, all I can tell you, after being swamped with details from about twenty five pages of adjustable parameters that can be brought up on the touch screen (Korgs are like that when it comes to detailed editing of any sound), is that this trumpet sound involves three oscillators. Hope that answers your question. I'm no tech-head, so that's the best I can do. blush smile

Cheers, 124.

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#335847 - 01/11/12 01:07 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: 124]
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Originally Posted By: 124


Hi Ian,

I spent a bit of time singling out that trumpet, it's labelled Trumpet Pro 2. Quite by accident, because of playing it singly in Sound mode, I noticed the tail-up occurs only on the softest touch of a key. As for being a mono or stereo voice, all I can tell you, after being swamped with details from about twenty five pages of adjustable parameters that can be brought up on the touch screen (Korgs are like that when it comes to detailed editing of any sound), is that this trumpet sound involves three oscillators. Hope that answers your question. I'm no tech-head, so that's the best I can do. blush smile

Cheers, 124.


You can tell if it's mono, John, by holding down a note, and pressing another above or below...if mono, only one note will sound...in other words, mono instruments won't play chords...only one note at a time.

Ian
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#335852 - 01/11/12 02:15 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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Actually the distinction is between monophonic (mono) and polyphonic.
DonM
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#335853 - 01/11/12 02:18 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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I just noticed that too Don...thanks. Do you have that same Trumpet on the PA3X?

Ian
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#335855 - 01/11/12 02:31 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
124 Offline
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Ah, I didn't realise you meant that kind of monophonic Ian. The last board I had like that was my old Micromoog in 1974. See, I said I was no tech-head.

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#335856 - 01/11/12 02:34 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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So is the trumpet monophonic, in the same way as your Mini, 124?

That may be partly the reason why you are getting those effects.

Ian
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#335858 - 01/11/12 02:48 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/01/09
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Right, fresh back from the keyboard . . . Not mono. You can play a fistful of notes, chords (not that you'd play any more than one note at a time with a trumpet, anyway), and the effect is there. Plus, all the notes in the 'chord' tail-up. At least I now know what controls it, light key pressure. Thing is I don't use trumpets much, so it's a bit moot, really. Could come in handy at some point no doubt.

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#335860 - 01/11/12 03:00 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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It would probably work well within a layer of wind instruments, the "tail up" helping it to stand out from the other instruments.

Yes, Korg has a very deep editing system, much more elaborate than what's on the Yamaha, and, although the latter has a fairly deep editing program for use with a PC, the onboard editing is just the basics (attack/decay/filtering, etc.)

Ian
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#335861 - 01/11/12 03:31 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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Haven't played with the trumpets much yet, but so far my favorite is Trumpet Pro 3. Aftertouch gradually increases volume. Hard touch trills up.
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#335862 - 01/11/12 03:39 PM Re: My KORG Micro Arranger Demo Pt 1 [Re: Dnj]
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The Trumpet used in the microArranger demo is the Mono Trumpet on my S910 I prefer the Trumpet Fall.

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