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#3328 - 12/06/02 05:54 PM Is anyone else going deaf?
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I'm just back from a night out and the folks I was with to are totally pissed off at me cos I could hardly hear them and I kept having to ask them to repeat themselves and shout what they were saying in my ear.

I don't know if it's caused by too much loud music, or just some kind of short term head cold, but it's quite a worry.

Do any of you guys have this problem?
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#3329 - 12/06/02 05:59 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Heh,what'd you say...
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#3330 - 12/06/02 06:52 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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I'm sorry............Did you say something?

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#3331 - 12/06/02 08:45 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Equalizer,

If you think loud music can effect your hearing, I AGREE with you on this one. I have no doubt that it happens. Birthdays will do that to a person also, and when you add the two together...A few years from now the hard of hearing will be the norm and you won't stand out or be embarrassed then.

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#3332 - 12/07/02 02:27 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Quote:
Originally posted by bvan:
A few years from now the hard of hearing will be the norm and you won't stand out or be embarrassed then.



Thank you for that wonderful consolation!
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#3333 - 12/07/02 04:28 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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I remember all the rock concerts I used to go to in the 70's and 80's........After the concert your ears would "ring" for a day or two. Voices were muffled, and background noises were nonexistent..........or maybe it was the marijuana.............anyway I'm glad/lucky my hearing is as good as it is now at age 43! I do try to take care of my hearing better now................I'm not ready for an ear trumpet just yet..

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#3334 - 12/07/02 05:44 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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I've got tinnitus. It's a high pitched test signal and sometimes it's really loud. I've had it for so long now, I don't even think about it. I probably got these from work and from being in the airforce.

-tek

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#3335 - 12/07/02 02:24 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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It's surprising how you think your hearing is OK. I thought mine was but I just went for a medical to renew my pilot's license and the doc told me my hearing was down. Luckily not enough to fail the medical but it does make you sit up. Maybe it's worth you guys going to the doc for a check up just in case. Most symphony guys wear earplugs and stuff so that's also worth a try.

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#3336 - 12/07/02 05:35 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Well, I was thinking about getting it checked out Pilot, but the thing is... if it turns out that my hearing is totally crud (as I suspect it is), then there's nothing that they can do to cure it anyway. Is there?

PS- please tell me that I'm wrong!!!
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#3337 - 12/08/02 08:32 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Equalizer,

PS- please tell me that I'm wrong!!!

OK, you're wrong.....Hearing, like sight can be dealt with to improve life. (Is that consoling?) Look at all the people who wear glasses, and then there are the ones who have surgery and it cannot be seen. Don't just write it off as a lost cause.

Ear plugs is a good idea. I use them. Also I have tinnitus and it puts sounds on multiple frequencies. I have had it for many years, sometimes worse than other times.

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#3338 - 12/09/02 12:38 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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if youre really worried get them checked even for peace of mind ! I do lots of live stuff and I got some attenuators (not ear plugs) made up they're like the ones that classical muso's wear with changeable 15 db 30 db or 45 db(eek) filters personaly I use the 15db filters which are fine .And they dont cut off the high freq's like say a foam ear plug would infact you can (almost) mix with them on .Its really worth it if you play live lots.also I get my ears checked every year (or so) cause I get a bit of tinnitus too.

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#3339 - 12/11/02 08:07 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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There is no doubt that sustained listening at high volumes causes hearing loss. Headphones can damage nerve endings as well. The simple truth is: Too much volume is no good for your health.
I have been fortunate to keep my "space" all these years on stage so I was never exposed to the front line of fire from the speakers. This is another resason why monitors are SO very important. You needa comfort zone at all times on stage.

Many of my friends have lost some sensitivity, mostly in the upper ranges first. That makes spoken work harder to distinguish, and music sounds "dull" because of the lack of high frequencies. They tend to compensate by cranking the treble and pushing the fadars up .....mor DAMAGE.

Get your hearing checked and STAY out of the way of the speakers. It should be an easy choice really .......
to HEAR or not to HEAR ...
What was the question?
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#3340 - 12/11/02 11:18 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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tek:
you were in the air forcE?

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#3341 - 12/12/02 12:05 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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EQ...
It's called "age"...
Welcome to the club
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#3342 - 12/15/02 07:28 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Knowledge about our protection ESSENTIAL. I urge all of you to visit http://www.hearnet.com/index.shtml

Protection is absolutely imperative at levels above that of someone shouting only (about) 2 meters away. Learn which protection devices are best for you given the application and your personal preferences.

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#3343 - 12/15/02 11:55 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Yeah, Jiddu. I did my service in the Swedish airforce as a mechanic. For some 10 months I sent off fighters from the runway service area.

I've never heard a louder noise, than when I stood 3m (9ft) from a full afterburner. We did these engine tests and stood there next to the planes. The noise is physically moving you around. Like something grabbing you. Some people had to throw up afterwards.

-tek

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#3344 - 12/16/02 11:19 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Afterburners. Man. -tek, that's gnarley man.
I'll bet hard rock concert audiences would love that....getting hit by a jet engine's afterburner blast. Pretty quick way to go bald anyway. Receeding hairline? what hairline more like. What's awesome is when the gate is opened and it turns to full thrust and the flames just turn into these cool blue cones. Stand behind that and your'e instantly turned into a carbonous debris. were talkin no dental records.

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#3345 - 12/17/02 05:28 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Tek, I'll go along with that. I remember sitting on a perimeter track in my car waiting for an F84 to take off and he switched on the afterburner just after he passed me. I thought the car was going to turn over. It really shook. Certainly the loudest noise I ever heard.

Bryan

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#3346 - 12/17/02 08:23 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Here's an image of one of the Viggens I've actually worked with. They have since then been replaced by the new JAS-39 fighter. This is during a show in Såtenäs, home of F7.



-tek

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#3347 - 12/18/02 06:57 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Tek- that's a very impressive picture! I must admit, for me this is all very confusing. I mean... I never realised the Swedish even had a military of any kind!

After all... the last time you guys were at war with anyone, you were all wearing funny horned hats! Right?
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#3348 - 12/18/02 07:46 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Equalizer, you ***** ! Even Switzerland has a ****ing Army, and they never go to war. In fact, it's pretty common knowledge that Scandinavian countries have mandatory military service.

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#3349 - 12/18/02 08:21 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Well, everyone knows that the Swiss have an army Cloakboy! Give me some credit here!

After all... it was the Swiss who gave us The Swiss Army Knife. Hey... do you think they all carry those funny wee knifes with them when the go to war?
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#3350 - 12/18/02 01:00 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Both my grandfathers took part in WW2, when the Finns fought the Russians and then later the Germans.

I'm really a Finn. At the time when I got my draft papers from Finland, I was in aviation college here in Sweden. The reason I changed nationality was because of college at the time. I could count my service in the airforce as part of the college program.

Well, now I'm actually both a Finn and Swede, but I cheer for Finland when hockey is on. I quess that's what really matters.

-tek

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#3351 - 12/19/02 12:42 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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tek, how do you resolve the undying hatred between finns and swedes?
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#3352 - 12/31/02 02:57 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Gee MRT1212 the rest of us have come to the realization that tek has multiple personalities so resolving just two of them is no big deal for him

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#3353 - 12/31/02 05:21 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Tek - How come so many Finns speak such good english when the languages are so different?

Bryan

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#3354 - 12/31/02 11:02 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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people say im a little slow, eh?
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#3355 - 01/01/03 04:12 AM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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Pilot, cable TV?

I don't know about Finns in Finland, but here in Sweden they started pounding us with English in the 4th grade. Also, the percentage of people with Internet access is very high in both coutries. Everything combined, I quess.

Finnish is beautifully complex and it makes English seem like a sign language

-tek

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#3356 - 01/02/03 02:48 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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tek get a used one of those engines and weld ot too the chassis of your vee dub
MORPH!

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#3357 - 01/06/03 11:13 PM Re: Is anyone else going deaf?
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strongly suggest that you avoid using headphones. I have found from my experience that a headphone surely kills your ears.


DUH, I should not be typing late at night.

[This message has been edited by sk880user (edited 01-07-2003).]

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