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#33168 - 12/19/05 09:34 AM BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Flavie Offline
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Registered: 10/11/01
Posts: 102
Loc: Ontario - Canada
Hi AJ,
Here is the list with the bugs I have on my XD3:

1 - The most dangerous and very annoying issue is the when the processor freezes during song playback and the display shows the” I/O disk error” message. This can happen with any kind of midi file: Ketron, Tune 1000, songs recorded with the XD3… . I have also noticed that after every event of this kind, the Jukebox list always goes back to the first position. Imagine a crowded dance floor, everybody having great fun and suddenly the XD3 stops in the middle of the song without me touching any button or even playing a note via midi controller. I was even called “amateur” in one of these situations!!! Strange thing is that is not happening on regular basis. Some times it occurs every day (even twice a day) for a period of time and then it may take weeks before it happens again. I was hoping that Midijay will be free of this problem. With great disappointment I’ve seen Midijay owners complaining about the very same problem on this forum and Yahoo as well.
2 – The bass notes are dropped when full polyphony. This happens in both: style and song play modes.
3 – GM Part, only the first page parameters can be saved, but not entirely. The “mute” function cannot be saved within the midi file. After finish editing a song and you load a different midi file, exactly the same tracks that were previously muted will be muted in the new one as well. It seems that the memory of the sequencer does not flush when a new midi file is loaded. The only way to “mute” a track is to lower its volume to “0” but that will still allow the track to trigger midi notes that will fill up the polyphony.
In the GM Part Filter page – NONE of changes done to these parameters can be saved! Again, loading a new song will keep the same filter changes that you just did to the previous midi file. I personally find this page useless. I would suggest removing those “GM Filter“options and adding instead a Velocity Edit page which will really make a big difference.
4 – When using single registrations, it is impossible to change the style within the same registration. If you try to change the style you will actually call another registration.
5 – In “Disk” mode everytime when a song, registration, text file, are modified and saved, the cursor returns to the first position of the list, and you need to scroll back to the file you’ve been working on. This is very inconvenient. The same thing happens also with the Juke Box list which I would recommend improving it by giving the cursor the possibility to jump backwards from “A” directly to “Z”.
6 – While playing a song and calling up the “Jukebox” list, will cause the player to skip few beats of the song and sometime even freeze the module.
7 – After performing with style/midi file that had a “.txt” file associated, when you play a karaoke file and you want to change the instruments and then press ”exit” , the lyrics from the .txt file will be overlapped with the lyrics of the karaoke file on the external monitor and so became impossible to read.
8 – After recording a song, the dynamic of the recording does not match the one of the initial performance. It has been improved with the last update but still does not capture the emphasis of the live performance.
9 – The “Piano Sustain” button does not work.
10 – Changing the Style play mode with the Song play mode, can cause the split point to jump to unwanted positions.
11 – The “Intelligent Transpose” function often acts really stupid, producing strange octave transpositions during song playback. This can happen to all the tracks but the drum tracks.
12 – Removing a “Drum Remix” option from a midi file can be done only with “Remove” button from the “Save” menu, which will also erase all the other changes made in the GM Part
13 – Yet another unusable function is the “Online Drum Remix” that never synchronizes the style with the midi file. It looks like the rhythm does not use the internal clock of the sequencer and therefore is always off beat.
14 – In the “GM Part” trying to switch from “Chorus” effect to “Delay” effect, never worked on my XD3. Also the “Distortion” effect acts very strange most of the times, the instrument became distorted, but the level of the track became very low.
15. the ¨page display time¨ function does not work as well.
For the time being, these are the issues that I remember of and need to be fixed. As a suggestion for the next upgrade version, I would recommend introducing the “save” function during playback. Just like the Midijay has now with the 3.0 version.
I would like to ask all the XD/Vega series users to post theyre problems here so we can finally get a clean OS version.
Thank you AJ and everybody else!
Flavi. www.fantasyband.ro
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#33169 - 12/20/05 02:12 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
bo Offline
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Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 18
Loc: Hilo, Hawaii
I too have that spontaneous freeze in the middle of playback. I/O disk error/ I also still have problems with power. I bent connectors pins as instructed by AJ, I cleaned contact pins, I glued variable resister. Nothing works. my last alternative will be just solder the wires from power supply board to motherboard. Voltmeter reads 5.3 v. Screen still varies in intensity when turned on. I run this through a power conditioner/regulator. No service centers in Hawaii.. Bummer I can't even rely on this machine as a sound module or drum machine. I don't even use it anymore. I really want it to work cause I like the sounds and especially the drums.

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#33170 - 12/20/05 09:20 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Flavie Offline
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Registered: 10/11/01
Posts: 102
Loc: Ontario - Canada
Hey Bo!

Oh yes, I used to have the same problem with the power board. As you mentioned, nothing will work but soldering the wires directly to the board. I did that long time ago and no problems anymore. Be carefull however and check the voltage after soldering because it might be much higher than 5.12 volt.
Thank you for the reply and good luck!!
Flavi.
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#33171 - 12/20/05 09:36 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Giovanni Offline
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Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 471
Loc: Norwich Norfolk England
Thanks you guys for mailing your problems regarding the Ketron XD3 .

Please will someone from Ketron reply .

I wish to replace my technics SMAC1200 only because it is 10 years old .it performs perfectly and has never given me any problems .
I just thought it would be good to update but I'm now very very unsure .

Giovanni
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#33172 - 12/22/05 02:42 PM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
olaojag Offline
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Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 3
Loc: övik, sweden
Hello!
I also have problems with my xd9hd, it stops during playback and shows "i/o error" now and then =catastrophe on the dancefloor!! . And sometimes it looks like there is a power problem to. It restarts like the power was broken for a second. Please help me if you have found the solution to these problems. / Ola

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#33173 - 12/23/05 01:14 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3304
Loc: Middletown, DE
Flavie,

Thanks for gathering these points. We will be taking a closer look at this list to see exactly what can be done.

AJ
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#33174 - 04/14/06 08:14 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3304
Loc: Middletown, DE
... Just resumed work on this. Will keep you all posted.

Thanks for the patience.

AJ
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#33175 - 04/16/06 03:39 AM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
AJ,

Is there a list of bugs for the SD1+

Regards

Tony

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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
... Just resumed work on this. Will keep you all posted.

Thanks for the patience.

AJ
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#33176 - 04/16/06 05:33 PM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3304
Loc: Middletown, DE
Tony,

None that I am aware of. Most were resolved in OS 4.0B&C.

Thanks,

AJ
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Design Engineer & Product Specialist.
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#33177 - 04/16/06 10:38 PM Re: BUG list of XD serie - For AJ and XD owners
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
I think I may have some AJ missings beats in style and also if you play all keyboard using demo button (not sure which one) timbre stays locked on, the only way to stop it is switch off and reboot.

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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Tony,

None that I am aware of. Most were resolved in OS 4.0B&C.

Thanks,

AJ
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Tyros 4/Pair SR 350/ PC with a i8 intel chip, XENYX 802, Ford Focus 2 litre/Tascam DR07/Brother printer/Designjet 500/ our Doris/5 Grandchildren/ white boxers short Kymart shipped over and Typhoo Tea Earl Grey

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