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#335505 - 01/07/12 12:13 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Aj, please I have post some questione 2 post ago. and want ask too..if U buy hdisk + ram if is possibile install the ram withot assistant (I have old model of audya)
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#335511 - 01/07/12 02:32 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Registered: 05/04/09
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Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
Bernie9,
Nothing new on the Drawbars Lesslie stimulation yet.

Dusan - studio time was extended so I can't call you back today as planned. With tomorrow being Saturday, I hope it's ok to call you then so we continue where we ended Wednesday?

Sorry for the delay.

AJ


Ok AJ,
I will waiting to your call...and I am at home all this day.

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#335513 - 01/07/12 03:09 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Dusan]
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Registered: 05/23/11
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Loc: Northern Germany
Originally Posted By: Dusan
We all know the latest OS dont work stabile and haw to much bugs and errors



Hi,

Thank Godness I can say that my Audya5 ( bought in October 2010, OS 4.2B ) is working without ANY problems so far ( knocking on wood for three times laugh )

With OS 4.0 I had a few ones, they went after I did a harddrive-scandisk via PC !
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#335566 - 01/07/12 09:39 PM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: cakemog]
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pastroccio,

What is your serial number? I might be able to help (contact me at ketron_tech@yahoo.com).

I might switch out your sound card and let you know over all costs (send you new card with RAM installed and you send us your old card). It does take some hours to do the modification on the old cards which is why Ketron prefers you have a specialized technician or your dealer do it - upgrading or not to the AJAMSONIC version. If you simply want to install more RAM in your AUDYA and have a serial F1AA10XXX, you'll need some soldering work done to install the expansion memory.

Contact me off-line.

Thanks,

AJ
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#335572 - 01/07/12 11:30 PM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Originally Posted By: Bernie9
AJ
Thank you but I am referring to "Drawbars", not the organ samples. The fast and slow rotor.

Bernie


Jeez Bernie,

That was hard going, BTW what is the real problem you have with fast and slow, have we all got it, is it a common fault.

Tony
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#335575 - 01/08/12 02:41 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: cakemog]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Hi Tony

I am an old school B3 guy that is pretty atuned to the Leslie sim. Wheras many of the presets are good, I find the slow/fast rotor control, used on drawbar settings, to be seriously lacking in credability.

I overcome this with the Ventilator or " Vent" module coupled with a halfmoon switch attached to the Audya.

http://www.neo-instruments.de/en/ventilator/ventilator-features

I would like not to have to carry extra gear with a $5000 machine.

Bernie
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#335579 - 01/08/12 04:04 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Bernie9]
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Bernie,

Lets wait and see what TWD says about this, he is the TWD, the dude of all dudes.

Tony
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#335593 - 01/08/12 08:57 AM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: cakemog]
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The R&D that goes to producing 'that sound' is immense. I strongly believe its why Roland and Korg (VK7/8, BX/CX) threw the towel in after the Hammond New B3 and XK3 was released and why Yamaha and all the other major players stopped trying years ago. There is only so much a General manufacturer like Roland, Yamaha, Korg, Ketron etc. can assign to ANY specific area of R&D, particularly one with almost infinite variables*. Hammond developed the award winning long loop tone-wheel sampling method for the new B3 and passed the technology down to lower models, no other major manufacturer has been able to do this.


So in all honesty if Hammond is truly an important part of your sound you have only two NEW options:

1) Hammond XM2 & a real Leslie
2) KeyB module (no Leslie required)

The ventilator you own is only slightly above average, just like the simulator on a modern Hammond it is Two Dimensional (listen through headphones). The worlds only true Three Dimensional simulator is found on the KeyB - you absolutely do not need a Leslie. Pitch and amplitude are manipulated and the result is a staggering 3d real rotation in a stereo image - its just astonishing. (on the module you can plug in other equipment e.g. a guitar to run through the sim.)

Lastly, as a Ketron Audya owner, if you just need occasional Hammond lead or pad sounds, I would personally suggest you use the samples (the main B3/Jazz samples on your Audya are taken from a KeyB Duo actually) The Leslie sim is not KeyB though and Ketron uses a somewhat unique 'morphing' effect to shift from Slow to Fast. As a Hammond player I do not find the Classic B3 samples on the Audya at all offensive but would never use the built in drawbars and effects dedicated to that section myself.


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A Hammond & Leslie combination is probably the most complex of sounds to reproduce - far more so than analogue synths, Wurlitzer Pianos or Hohner Clavinets, Even a high end Grand Piano is easier to reproduce because for the most part these instrument follow a set of specific rules and variables. The core Hammond sound is far from pure sine-waves; many other variables come into play, each one is unique. for instance here are a few (but not all)

1) cross talk (the amount of 'harmonic noise' that occurs due to the hundreds of tiny lacquered copper wires at the rear of the contact system. every single tonewheel Hammond is slightly different and this 'natural' crosstalk is almost impossible to replicate with any degree of authenticity.

2) Tube overdrive. This is not 'distortion'. overdrive occurs when the signal passing through a valve begins to 'clip' creating warm, even-order, harmonics. Its naturally occurring and unique to tube technology.

The list could go on for ages, but would also include keyclick, chorus/vibrato, percussion, Tonewheel flutter, Hum, Acutronics Reverb and of course Leslie simulation. None of these (particuarly a Leslie Speaker) is easy to reproduce.

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#335607 - 01/08/12 12:19 PM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
TWD

Thank you for the most comprehensive explanation I have seen . I have the ear, but not the technical knowledge of what goes into what I am looking for.

At least, I won't be expecting any meaningful improvements in the drawbars, but will use the presets. My Vent does a good enough job improving the drawbars.

I agree with the KeyB Exp, but at $1800, I can't afford to be a purist.


Edited by Bernie9 (01/08/12 12:20 PM)
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#335617 - 01/08/12 03:10 PM Re: www,ajamsonic.com [Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 08/09/01
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Because you are talking about the Audya Drawbars simulation, I have a question.

On the SD2 or SD4 (mayb on audya too?) if you send a controller 0 bank 67, you get a drawbar sound.

You can use a drawbar sound on many channels together. SO you can for example play a drawbar sound for the left sound and another drawbar sound for the right hand.

The problem, is that when you change a drawbar value, it change for both channels together frown

Do you think it's a Ketron bug or it's a limitation of the Ketron drawbars engine, so drawbars are global for all the channels together?
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