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#319851 - 03/22/11 07:52 AM Tyros 2 styles needed
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Good morning,

Can anyone recomend or have styles for the following songs?

Elvira
Just The Way You Are
Hot Hot Hot
Bad Bad Leroy Brown

Thanks!
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#319971 - 03/23/11 03:30 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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If you mean Billy Joel's "Just the way You Are" - try a samba (yes, you heard right) at a very slow 62-64 tempo. That's just about what Liberty D is playing on the record.
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#319973 - 03/23/11 03:47 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
Good morning,

Can anyone recomend or have styles for the following songs?

Elvira
Just The Way You Are
Hot Hot Hot
Bad Bad Leroy Brown

Thanks!


For Elvira and Bad Leroy Brown I use third-party styles, which I'll be more than happy to email to you.

For Hot Hot Hot, the Zouk style, which can be found in the World Category of the keyboard hits it right on the money. Set the tempo at 118, use the "D" variation, and without pressing any keys hit the Start/Stop button, which will fire up the drums. Sing the Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole intro a couple times, hit the fill and select the chord you sing the song with.

For Just The Way You Are, the Pop Bossanova with a tempo of 135 and the "C" variation works great. Try using the second intro, which is pretty clean and relatively short.

Good Luck,

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#320346 - 03/28/11 07:55 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
If you mean Billy Joel's "Just the way You Are" - try a samba (yes, you heard right) at a very slow 62-64 tempo. That's just about what Liberty D is playing on the record.


Thanks Gary for your assistance!

Uncle Dave- slowing down the samba works great. I can't believe I didn't think of that becuase I'm a drummer and I'm familar with the Liberty D. pattern.


My only issue now is how to play the two handed piano intro while in accompaniment mode. I've tried full keyboard mode but my T2 does not respond the way I want it to. Any ideas?
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#320350 - 03/28/11 08:12 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman



My only issue now is how to play the two handed piano intro while in accompaniment mode. I've tried full keyboard mode but my T2 does not respond the way I want it to. Any ideas?


I have sent you a link via PM to a style I assembled/created and use for the tune "Just The Way You Are"...it has the characteristic intro and it was done on the PSR-S910, so it may need conversion to work in the Tyros2, but it should be fine otherwise.

It is based more on a Bossa style rhythm than a Samba, but it works great for me. I hope this helps.

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#320353 - 03/28/11 08:22 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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If you can find a decent SMF of the tune, you can always cut out the Intro and splice it into your favorite style for the song... if you want to go with the slowed down Samba, for instance. Or even grab Ian's Intro from the Bossa version.

Mind you, the sax solo in the middle is a bear to get the scoops right while still playing the chords with your LH. In this particular song's case, if you are shooting for authenticity, an SMF might do the trick better than a style.

You can still drop in some Markers so that you can extend or shorten it on the fly, should you feel that necessary.
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#320357 - 03/28/11 08:44 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Diki]
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Why copy the sax solo....just play it your own way and make the song yours, many times its better then the original that way.....no need to copy exactly IMO.


Edited by Dnj (03/28/11 08:45 AM)

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#320359 - 03/28/11 08:58 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Well, even if you DON'T copy the sax solo verbatim, just about ANY decent sax solo requires you to bend at often the very instant you need to change chords as well. I've posted about this in the past, but it bears repeating. Listen to just about ANY sax solo. Listen to how many times he bends at chord boundaries. In fact, many times, he's bending BECAUSE there's a chord boundary..!

It's just part of what they do.

(And if you can play a solo that's BETTER than the original, kudos! I'd like to hear it. wink )
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#320369 - 03/28/11 10:03 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Ian- it will a day or so until I can play around with the style you sent me but I do apreciate that very much.

Diki- one day I'll have to learn to do what your talking about. I'm sure you must come up with some great styles doing that!

there are many songs that a SMF or a backing track would worlk better for improvising. Mainly to free my left hand to pitch bend more play jazz rootless voices that my Tyros 2 does not understand:(

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#320376 - 03/28/11 10:39 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Why copy the sax solo....just play it your own way and make the song yours, many times its better then the original that way.....no need to copy exactly IMO.


Great suggestion, Donny.

I do the sax solo my way, but, in the interest of keeping the tune's solo relatively cohesive with the rest of the piece, I generally do the first and last parts of the solo very close to the original Phil Wood's version. What is in between is usually my own interpretation.

Most people identify specific solos by the way they are introduced into the tune, or how they lead the listener into the rest of the tune.

Although I can't put in as many bends and scoops as a free playing solo sax player, I feel I do enough to give it a decent amount of authenticity, and I am happy with that.

I don't use any SMF (to each his own)...I prefer the flexibility of styles for my kind of playing...if I lose some in the amount of bends/scoops, I gain it by being able to alter chords, add extra verses, and even change styles at my own discretion.

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#320386 - 03/28/11 01:04 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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I used to perform this song regularly, and one night I recorded it--mainly to determine if there were ways to improve on the performance. Here's the song as I recorded several years ago. Click Here

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#320387 - 03/28/11 01:14 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Gary, can you post it where you don't have to be a member of boxnet to play it?
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#320388 - 03/28/11 01:32 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Yep,

I'm on my way out the door for a job, but I'll do it when I get home.

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#320406 - 03/28/11 06:10 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Gary,The item has been deleted on BoxNet
Look forward to a listen...
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#320408 - 03/28/11 06:35 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Hopefully, this one will work. Click Here

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#320425 - 03/29/11 04:37 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: travlin'easy]
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Very nice Gary. Do you do that in F#?


Ian, the style that you sent me works very well. Thnak you so much:)
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#320435 - 03/29/11 07:10 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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I play it in F because I'm more comfortable singing the song in that key. Normally, I would play it as an instrumental in "C".

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#320437 - 03/29/11 07:26 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: travlin'easy]
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hey Gary, I asked because my voice is deep like yours. I'll try it in F when I work on the vocal. I play it as an instrumental in C.

Ian, what solo voice do you use in the RH when you play "Just the Way You Are" as an instrumental?

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#320441 - 03/29/11 08:14 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman

Ian, what solo voice do you use in the RH when you play "Just the Way You Are" as an instrumental?



I play the tune in "D" which, I believe, is the original key...I use Fingered On Bass, and set the split point to Ab2 to be able to play the second chord, Bm6, in root position.

Solo voices...usually start with SA Concert Guitar, and then change to Cool! Suitcase EP...I use a strings layer for the Bridge, and, of course, Sax (in this case, SA Breathy Sax) for the solo...last verse, either SA Concert guitar or Electric piano (sometimes I layer them).

For my own take on the arrangement, I start the tune without the intro, and then play the style intro after the first verse.

It is a great restaurant tune...busy and lively, but not too aggressive.

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#320443 - 03/29/11 09:00 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Nice relaxed vocal, Gary...(I hear a bit of Mr. Como...)

Would you comment on your chord progressions, especially through the verses? They are quite different from the actual songs. Seems like you played closer to the original on the bridge.

This is such a iconic type pop tune. Personally, I'm usually hesitant to wander too far off the reservation from the original chords.

I'd like to hear about your approach to this song...

Thanks-
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#320445 - 03/29/11 09:30 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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I'm not sure, Bill. It has been a long time, but if I recall correctly, I downloaded the tabs from one of the sites. Thanks for the complements on the vocals--my audiences really love the way it comes across. I performed it last night at a restaurant job and even the youngsters (staff) loved it as well. I'll try to dig up the tabs and post them when I get back from today's jobs.

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#320451 - 03/29/11 11:37 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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OMG... I wouldn't trust web tabs if I were you! A very high percentage of those are posted by the hearing impaired, I'm afraid! smile
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#320459 - 03/29/11 01:27 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
OMG... I wouldn't trust web tabs if I were you! A very high percentage of those are posted by the hearing impaired, I'm afraid! smile


I agree 1000%...

Even scores purchased via Musicnotes or Sheet Music Direct can have errors in them. When I heard Gary's chordings they were so different from Joel's that I wondered had Gary tried to use substitute chords or was it a bad chart or something.
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#320465 - 03/29/11 03:13 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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I use the score found in a Yamaha Electone Step 8 workbook I had when teaching...even has the sax solo very close to the original, and all the proper chords...it's in the key of "D".

It's a beautiful piece of music, and a lot of fun to play.

Most importantly, although Gary's chords weren't quite the same as the original, he didn't mess with the melody, and that came off really nice.

Great job, Gary.

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#320466 - 03/29/11 03:21 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Gary did a great job and made it his own....WTG!

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#320468 - 03/29/11 03:33 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Here's the tabs chart I went by:



Verse 1
C Am F Am
Don't go chang-ing, __to try and please me
C7 Fm C
You never let me down___ before
F Fm C Am7
Don't__ im-ag__-ine__ you're too fa-mil__- iar__
Am7 D7 G7
And I don't see__ you__ an-y-more___


Verse 2
C Am F Am
I wouldn't lea-ve you, in times of trouble
C7 Fm C
We never could have come this far
F Fm C Am7
I took the good times, I'll take the bad times
Dm7 G C
I'll take you just___ the way___ you are__________


Verse 3
C Am F Am
Don't go trying __some new fashion
C7 Fm C
Don't change the color of your hair
F Fm C Am7
You always have my unspoken pas-sion___
Am7 D7 G
Although I might not___ seem to care___


Verse 4
C Am F Am
Don't want clever conversation
C7 Fm C
Never want to work that hard
F Fm C Am7
I just want someone that I can talk to
Dm7 G C
I'll take you just___ the way___ you are__________


Bridge
F G7 Em7 A7
I need to know___ that you___ will al_____ways be
Dm7 G C/C7
The same old some___one__ that I knew__
Ab Bb7 Gm7 C -7
What will__ it take__ till you__ be-lieve___ in me__
Fm7 Bb G
The way that I___ be-lieve___ in you__________.


Verse 5
C Am F Am
I said I love you and that's forever
C7 Fm C
And this I promise from the heart
F Fm C Am7
I could not love___ you any better
Dm7 F C
I'll take you just___ the way___ you are__________

I don't know if the tabs will line up properly with the words, but that's OK.

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#320477 - 03/29/11 06:34 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Wow...

How could someone put that up one some website as the correct chords to that song?

Here are the correct ones, via wikifonia:

http://www.wikifonia.org/node/624#/C/-1/1
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#320492 - 03/30/11 04:34 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Thanks Bill for posting the chart. One challenge I have with this song and others like it is how to play the chords that don't have roots in the bass. Chords like D/F# or G/A. Any tips?
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#320493 - 03/30/11 05:08 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
One challenge I have with this song and others like it is how to play the chords that don't have roots in the bass. Chords like D/F# or G/A. Any tips?


Every arranger I ever had has the ability to follow a slash bass line in one mode of arranger triggering. On the Korgs, it's extra easy because there is a dedicated button for the bass. Yamaha makes you go into a menu, but it's still there.
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#320494 - 03/30/11 06:19 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
Thanks Bill for posting the chart. One challenge I have with this song and others like it is how to play the chords that don't have roots in the bass. Chords like D/F# or G/A. Any tips?


I always use full keyboard and have no problem with the various chordal configurations. It tracks very accurately.
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#320495 - 03/30/11 06:21 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Gary, Nice job, you keep on proving you don't need the latest to be the greatest.


Live playing and using every chord as written while singing, is way too difficult, for me, so I cheat whenever I can. Yes I'm lazy, but as Ian stated: "Most importantly, although Gary's chords weren't quite the same as the original, he didn't mess with the melody, and that came off really nice."

I am making a commitment to learn those really difficult chords, like learning a new chord a day...or maybe every other day, or once a week... tired


Bill, I hardly ever use full keyboard, and when I do, I never noticed the bass root. I'll have to give a better listen, so thanks for that tip.


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#320496 - 03/30/11 07:24 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Try transposing the Wikafonia version down to "C" and you'll find the difference in chord structure is not as significant. I don't play the song in the original chords because it's way out of my vocal range. Keep in mind that Billy Joel has a relatively high, squeaky sounding voice--I don't want to sound like him.

Like I said earlier, I cannot remember exactly what site I downloaded the song from, and I know it was transposed to "C." I just tried playing and singing the song from the Wikafonia page that Bill posted, and it was WAY OUT of MY vocal range. When I transposed the page to "C" it sounded nearly identical to the one I posted.

I, personally, would like to hear some of the other folks here post their versions of the song in the same manner--while playing and singing, you know, a one-shot deal. Like I've said many, many times on the Zone, I've learned a lot here--stuff like this helps us all learn even more. So, Bill, Diki, UD, etc.., fire up those Zoom recorders and post the results. I, for one, would love to hear your versions of Just The Way You Are.

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#320499 - 03/30/11 07:39 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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[I always use full keyboard and have no problem with the various chordal configurations. It tracks very accurately. [/quote]

So for example if you a D/F# chord, would play a F# in the LH and a D chord in the RH?
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#320509 - 03/30/11 10:06 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
[I always use full keyboard and have no problem with the various chordal configurations. It tracks very accurately.


So for example if you a D/F# chord, would play a F# in the LH and a D chord in the RH? [/quote]

Exactly...

It allows you to use moving bass lines with the LH, which I find very useful.
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#320510 - 03/30/11 10:48 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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yeah, but don't you need to play chords with two hands to do that? That could work if you're singing but if you're doing LH chords and RH melody?
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#320517 - 03/30/11 01:47 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
yeah, but don't you need to play chords with two hands to do that? That could work if you're singing but if you're doing LH chords and RH melody?


In short, yes...

Typically, I'll chord with my LH, play an intro with my RH, then while singing, play bass/chord with my LH and chord/fills with my RH.

I switch back and forth through both approaches in most songs...
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#320537 - 03/31/11 04:36 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: lahawk]
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Originally Posted By: lahawk
Gary, Nice job, you keep on proving you don't need the latest to be the greatest.


Amen. I must remind myself this constantly as all these great new instruments keep coming out.
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#320557 - 03/31/11 09:33 AM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
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A good exercise when learning new chords is to play them, after you have learned them in root position, in the other inversions, too. So, for a C chord, play CEG first, then play EGC, then GCE. Without the On Bass feature on, they will all sound the same. But with it on, they will all sound subtly different.

This will not only help you when it comes to slash chords and inversions, but with on bass off, it helps stop you from jumping your LH around so much, as a G major to a C major can be played GBD, then GCE... Your hand doesn't move, and only two fingers do, too!

Mind you, I like Donny's approach, too. It doesn't matter how messed up you get the chords - it's not WRONG, it's just 'making it your own'! wink
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#320573 - 03/31/11 12:05 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Diki]
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Thanks Diki--I'll give that a try the next time I get some free time. In this instance, though, I accessed the correct chord structure, then used the sites transpose feature to transpose the chord structure to "C", which is my playing comfort zone. So, the progression was essentially identical, just a shift in the chords used--at least that's the way it looked and sounded to me. I've never been good with inversions, but I'm always learning, so maybe one day they're become second nature.

Thanks everyone,

Gary cool
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#320578 - 03/31/11 01:38 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
Bill in Dayton Offline
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A lot has to do with approach.

To me, I try and stay away from this particular tune, unless its a request. The tune is so iconic, same with the solo, that I feel uncomfortable playing it. The opening riff is such a unique one, that to leave it out and still call it "Just the Way You Are" to me, is like a restaurant selling a Rueben sandwich without the corned beef. The 6th's in the Gm and Bm chords Joel uses colors the tune in a special way and to not play them also really stood out to me.

You leave the opening riff out, you leave the coloring out, etc...pretty soon, its not the same tune anymore. Forgive me Gary, but it sounded like an easy note version.

No offense meant, whatsoever...
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#320585 - 03/31/11 02:14 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Originally Posted By: Bill in Dayton
A lot has to do with approach.

. The tune is so iconic, same with the solo, that I feel uncomfortable playing it. The opening riff is such a unique one, that to leave it out and still call it "Just the Way You Are" to me, is like a restaurant selling a Rueben sandwich without the corned beef. The 6th's in the Gm and Bm chords Joel uses colors the tune in a special way and to not play them also really stood out to me.



Absolutely, Bill...it is a tune that requires more than a bit of work to pull off close to Joel's version. I spent weeks getting the sax solo close enough to the original where I was finally comfortable enough with it to play in public...the addition of the 6ths to the Gm and Bm chords is necessary in my opinion, to give (or to sustain) the tune's twinge of melancholy.

The style I use has the signature Intro, and it allows the player to repeat it...I always start without, and kick it in after the first verse, but, to leave it out entirely, wouldn't work for me.

However, I still like Gary's version...perhaps it's the vocals that make it work...he doesn't try to sound like Joel, so it does seem to give him some artistic license. wink

Certainly, the tune itself, seems to have crossed into the "Standards" category, albeit, a "new" standard. Diana Krall does a nice rendition.

A very well written song, to be sure...and my favorite Billy Joel tune...another I like to play, is "She's Always A Woman"...clever chords and lyrics make it a lot of fun.


Ian
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#320598 - 03/31/11 07:43 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: montunoman]
travlin'easy Offline
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No offense taken, Bill. Some folks think they have to sound exactly like the original--some folks don't. For the most part, audiences don't care if I sound like Billy Joel--they came to hear ME perform.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#320599 - 03/31/11 07:45 PM Re: Tyros 2 styles needed [Re: travlin'easy]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
No offense taken, Bill. Some folks think they have to sound exactly like the original--some folks don't. For the most part, audiences don't care if I sound like Billy Joel--they came to hear ME perform.

Cheers,Gary cool


Gary dont worry your doing just fine! ....making people happy every day show after show, year after year!!!

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