Hello guys!!!

Well about this Vega thing..I DONT LIKE IT..

Why is the lebanon Vega better then the others...Well i know that Eddy Kanaan have Explain that,but there is one thing i dont like...I mean if Eddy kanaan have the Software that Solton dont want to give us,or sell us...We should have the Choise to bye Eddy`s vega from any place in the world...Well i have nothing against Eddy Kanaan,cause he is just doing he`s work,and he is living from it...But the SOLTON should know that if Eddy kanaan have the software,he should be able to sell it international....

Man i am really really tired of this thing!!! And Solton should be SHAMED for this thing,and we should really do a list for this and send it to Solton,so they know that they are doing misstakes...Or maybe its only Monopoly,like someone said in here before...

Eddy i like you as a friend,but you really have to explain this better for me,i mean if you are doing things with the Vega,that no one here can do(software)we should be able to bye it,And i think that you would make more money if everybody can bye it...
Ones again i say,its nice to have you in here Eddy Kanaan,and you are doing a good job...

My last words is: I DONT LIKE THIS SOLTON!!!

/Ziad

Hello Ziad

I understand and respect what you say but let me explain the following points.

(The explanation will be long)

1. KETRON gave me the software plus the hardware to make the sounds, but the tools are not everything. I told KETRON to distribute the tools worldwide but they refused for a very reasonable, logical and descent reason; the tools installation and use are very difficult. The software has to come with a special sound card that emulates the internal engine of the keyboard. The software installation is made manual, so you have to copy DLL files and other EXE files to windows directory and subdirectories plus writing adjustments in several *.ini files and so and so...

The software doesn't have a help file and is several pieces stocked together and once the sounds have been made in wav files and mapped, there is another long and painful stage which is the compiler that compiles the waves and transform it to SND files.

I stayed at KETRON facility in Ancona Italy for ten days from 8:30 AM till 6:00 PM just to learn the editor.

So now you have to see things from the point of view of KETRON, which is a company. If a company has to sell software and a soundboard worldwide, it must be responsible for it. I mean it must give the right support for it and make the installation very easy and to make a good manual plus window help support as also debugging the software on all windows versions (95, 98, ME, 2000, XP) and preventing dll conflicts etc... and the list seems to never end. The programmers among you will understand how long these things will take time, and lets suppose that KETRON do all these things she can't sell the tools and distribute it worldwide without taking the approval from the European comuunity CE that take another long time plus there is the packaging of the tools......... believe me KETRON has not the time or the needed persons and technology to follow this project.

That’s why KETRON can't sell the tools for you. Please don't tell me that why she doesn’t give to the people that ask for it, because the respected companies don't do that, there are legal actions that could be taken against KETRON if the tools caused some damage for the user and the company reputation is in danger here. If I wasn't working for KETRON then I couldn't get the software.

You asked to purchase the programmed flash from me. I am ready to sell the flash but the question is for how much. If I tell you the flash for 500 USD you will say it's too much, even if I tell you 400 USD its still too much for you, but for me it is nothing compared to the hard work it cost me.

I think the best way is to negotiate that matter with KETRON maybe they are ready to pay me for the job for once and they sell it by themselves. We have to wait and see.

In the meanwhile, I remain at your service and your friend (if you accept me) as I thank you in advance for understanding my cause.

Best regards

Eddy Kanaan

Eddy thank you for really explaining the situation with the Flash card and ketron.
You are always welcome Habibi and you are one of us.
Abdallah Safar.

Hey guys I've talked to EddyKn on the phone he is really a nice guy.I mean just like Eddy said it's Ketron who we should be Complaining to not Eddy. Because just like he said he is willing to do it if Ketron ready to pay him for his time which is the only way to be fare to the guy.I mean come.... on guys no body of us here would do free work for any big company right.

EddyKN you simply taking the time to explain the way you did above means alot to everyone here I am sure. It shows your sincerety and professionalism.

I know that I don't have a Vega but I still see Eddy's point of view as I am sure Ziad now does....right abu el zeek?

Its sad that this has to happen this way because at the end if Ketron takes the right steps then everyone will benifit:

1)EddyKN will make some money which I am sure no matter what they paid him will not be worth the time and effort he put into those cards. I am sure Asafar and others here who work on making sounds on keyboards realize how much time it takes to get good sounds out, and imagine if you had to do all that EDDYKN has to go through.

2)Ketron will benifit because I am sure they will make way more money than they would have invested when they sell it to the end user. Everyone here agrees that every Vega owner will end up buying this card.

3)The end user, You and I, will also benifit because we will end up with nice sounds styles and great support from EDDYKN who is one of us and knows exactly the type of music and demand we have as keyboard players.

So really if Ketron has any smarts they would invest into working on at least compnesating EDDYKN for his hard work, which in the end will make everyone happy.

I don't want to sound like taking Ketron's side or Eddy's side, but let me just mention that there were days when I bought a keyboard, and that is ALL I GOT from the company. I had to transform that keyboard with alot of hours of work, into what I wanted to be...there was no support...there was no one who knew what the hell Arabic music or arabic sounds or styles meant. So to me honestly when I think about where we stand now...we are in great shape I think. You buy keyboards that have alot of the stuff that we used to spend hours and hours building. I know its never enough and our expectations grow as technology advances, but lets simply keep our hopes up and I sure hope Ketron is reading this.

At the end, we all agree that we have seen nothing but great attitude from EDDYKN in all aspects of the word.

My two cents , now let me go enjoy my X1, this thing gets better everyday for me .

[This message has been edited by Mosiqaar (edited 09-29-2002).]

Hello Guys!!!

Why do no-body understand me!!!
I am like you guys very happy that Eddy Kanaan is helping us,and dont forget he is helping him self when he is lissening to us(Customer)...
And i know that Mr Kanaan is doing a hell of a job,i mean i would not work for Ketron for free..And i am not saying that this is Mr Kanaan fault...I know that this Software needs many hours to learn....

But please read this and think all of brothers!!

Ketron should know that if they spend time and money for Mr Kanaan to learn this Beautiful Software,they should have a plan to sell the product that Mr Kanaan is working with...And there is more than just Mr Kanaan who works with these kind of stuff for Ketron,and i think those guys dont even have a selling plan...I dont have anything against the Germans,but even the Germans have better support and selling plan than we Arabs have,and i think Eddy Kanaan knows this..And come on,i mean how many germans plays music,and with a Ketron,So even they have better support and sell plan....And have you guys thinked about that the Vega and the x1 does not cost 100 or 200 USD,and if you buy a electronic product from sony or what that could be,you for 100 USD,you would have a support and a good good selling plan,i can just go and get a DVD player from all around the world and get the exact the same dvd player that (Samer) or all of you have in the US....And i say it again,this is not Eddy Kanaan`s Fault,And habibi Eddy Kanaan,you said something about "I remain at your service and your friend (if you accept me)" I Say HABIBI Eddy Kanaan!!!

Well Eddy you you are really a nice person....And i mean it from all of my heart..

So to all of you guys or i should say to all of my BROTHERS: With all of my Respect to you i just say...I DONT LIKE KETRON`S SELL PROJECT...

Ziad
Calm down MA MAN,the poor german's has nothing to do with it, it could be the Tibet because you know all they want is for their Deli Lama to be able to come back home, or you know what it could be any body else, I personally think it's Zambabwe's fault, but for some reason I always thought that Ketron was an Italian product.

Eddy

Eddy LOL...I think (but I am not sure) that you miss understoof abu el zeek. I think he wanted to say that even the Germans (which some how the does not respect their support) have better support than the Italians (ketron).

This is what I think he meant lol.

Well Eddy,you think i am jooking about this,but i am not...

Here you have the adress to the german site!
http://www.solton-software.de/index2.html

There is much info to get,like tips and tricks and more....So Eddy dont come up with Deli Lama,cause he knows more than you and me about Ketron x1....

/Ziad

Habibi ABOUZZZZZZZZOUZ, i'm just messing with you, by the way i think Deli Lama plays only on the black keys.