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#306443 - 08/21/02 11:53 AM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
eddy awada Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 636
Loc: MI,usa
Ziad, thanks for the kind words, the kids say hello to you too.

aboud, i'll try to catch you tonight before i go to the night club where i'll have a gig.Le me ask you this thought, it came to my mind that with the knowledge that you have regarding sysex you should be able to build quarter note boxes fo some keybords, right?

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#306444 - 08/21/02 12:10 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
hyperag Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Boston, MA, USA
Eddy,

I believe so .... Do you think there would be enough of a demand?

To be honest, I believe I could probably put together any type of box that could do *anything* for you (not just quarter-tones), keyboard wise, as long as your sysex supports it!

-AB
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#306445 - 08/21/02 12:58 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
Karton-ketron Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 204
Loc: Stockholm
Hi!!!

Well Abu el Abeeed if i have understand you good,you have fixed one problem...

I explain what i understand from you,thats when loading the 16SND files,you cn remove say example that i dont want kanun sounds,you can remove it,but we cant load a sample instead......That means that we got one problem left,and that is to have a sample instead....

But now i have a new question,you say that you can remove one sound,but can you put one sound from the 8SND instead off the sound you removed from the 16SND???

well the best thing is that i forget the hole thing about "binary and hex" cause thats digital technic,like the digital grinds,1 and 0,and i was not good in school....

But Aboud i really want to know whats this all about...

And about my "compliments" well its not empty words,cause its really nice to have all the "habayeb" here....And thanks for answer the questions....

Eddy,did you like my T3 sounds???
If anybody wants my T3 sounds just say it,and you have it.....

/Zico

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#306446 - 08/21/02 02:46 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
Maged Offline
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Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 246
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Dear Aboud,
Since you’re a software wiz, you may understand this better than me:
Here are couple of web sites that have information about the *.SND source code.
I am not too sure if it contains any useful information but there is couple of utilities that you can download for free. http://oss.sgi.com/projects/audiofile/ http://www.spies.com/~franke/SoundApp/formats.html#system7

Please take a look into it and let us know…

Thanks


Maged

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#306447 - 08/21/02 03:03 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
eddy awada Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 636
Loc: MI,usa
Aboud you said
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I believe so .... Do you think there would be enough of a demand?.


If you can do that,take for example the kurzweil, built a box for it and i promise to get you millions of customers....well maybe a little bit less, but seriousely i think your name will be posted in the gueniss boock(is that how it's spelled).

Abou el zouz
I might have some sort of a solution to your war with the 16MB SND file, i'll email you regarding that, as for the at3 sounds, i didn't check them yet, i've been very buisy programming my Roland XV-5080 and i din't want to disconnected from my midi interface till i get done with it.

Eddy

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#306448 - 08/21/02 04:39 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
hyperag Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Boston, MA, USA
Maged,

The SND file references you have sent me on those links are refering to a different type of format. Macintosh, also uses the SND extension for sounds files. However, the actual content differs COMPLETELY from that of the SND file of an X1. Its only an external, 3 letter label, but, like everything else in life, it's on the inside is what counts!!!


-Aboud
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#306449 - 08/21/02 06:58 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
Mosiqaar Offline
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Registered: 12/01/01
Posts: 999
Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
You go away for a few hours and you miss alot!!! WOWWWW

ABOUD....I will be your loyal student for as long as it takes to teach me this stuff....I stand right next to EDDY in saying I am very interested.

I always like the saying "teach me how to fish rather than feed me" or something like that

T3 sounds, quarter tones....what next guys?
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#306450 - 08/21/02 08:47 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
Maged Offline
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Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 246
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Alright Aboud,
As I said, you know better. I am near positive that you’ll get somewhere if you keep on trying…

Maged

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#306451 - 08/24/02 10:09 PM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
Maged Offline
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Registered: 03/26/01
Posts: 246
Loc: Toronto, Canada
Aboud,
From what I understand, the SND file bank contains some *INGREDIENTS* in it, which means every *.SND file has few sounds in it. I think this is the same way more or less WINZIP works, you can zip many Wave files together and have a final big file with *.zip extension.
Some other computer wizard here in this forum was able to do something similar for the Korg keyboards: http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/004135.html

If we can do such a program it will be very beneficial for most of us because it will allow us to make our very own FINAL oriental sound bank using a mix of different banks.

I hope you succeed to do it some day…

Maged

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#306452 - 08/25/02 06:27 AM Re: X1 SND Files and Sampling
hyperag Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Boston, MA, USA
Maged,

Thank you for the info man! I am going to look at this link.

As far as what you said, you are absolutly right about how the SND files work. They are all grouped together as one big file (much like a ZIP file). I have decomposed most of the SND file type into the WAVs that represent the actual samples.

But the only thing holding me back from putting a SND file together is the, *OTHER*, (ie,, header) informatation stored in the intiial SND file. That is where inofmration such as BANK location, sample size, sample key/pitch, loop point, etc ... is stored. Without bieng able to modify that, I wouldn't be able to put in any of your own custom WAVs into a SND file.

However, you (and everyone else here) might be glad to know that I have decided to work on some software that will be a universal converter for all sample types (KORG, GEM, KETRON, etc ..) into WAVs, and eventually, into each other. This may take some time in development, but the end-product will be some professionaly written software that will make everyone who ever owned a sampling keyboard crave for. I cannot tell you much more than this so far, since everyone will be e-mailing me wanting a copy ASAP. But I will defnitly keep everyone on this forum updated on what the deal is.

For now however, I will be glad to change anyone's samples into WAV file (from any instrument) if you e-mail me. So feel free to pass this word around!

-AB
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