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#3029 - 05/22/02 08:39 PM Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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I saw it the other day. Better than the first movie hands down, but still not what made the first trilogy great, and that is the "real feel". Lucas is too infatuated with cgi. Im almost glad he didnt have access to that technology back when he was making IV, V and VI.

What I think made "Clones" better is that there was more character building for starters. Some hardcore "StarWars nerds" didnt like the movie because it was too much of a love story, but if it wasnt for that part, then Luke would have never come to be, so that was important as well. I already like the Count Dooku character. I cant wait to see what his role in the third film will be.

Your input?
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#3030 - 05/22/02 09:17 PM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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I havent seen it yet. But are you saying we're gonna have to wait another 3 years to see a REAL Star Wars movie?

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#3031 - 05/22/02 09:25 PM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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Didnt say that at all. Like I said, I think this movie was more of a Star Wars movie than Phantom Menace, but that is my opinion. I started this thread to see what other people thought of the movie, so go see it damn it!
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#3032 - 05/23/02 08:43 AM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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I've seen it twice now. What's this bitchin about it being a love story. Seems like everyone's forgotten that Lucas already gave away the outline of the 3 movies in 1999.

Ep1 didn't have too much character build because it's the beginning of the whole thing. Ep2 would be a love story and clone war. Ep3 will be really dark and the bad guys will win. From Lucas himself anno 1999.

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#3033 - 05/23/02 10:13 AM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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Oh yeah, Chris, Dooku's role in ep3 will be to die The Sith travel in pairs you know.

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#3034 - 05/24/02 11:21 AM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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I have to say , I really liked it . The look and feel is awesome . George would have used CGI back in the first episodes if it were available . I think the CGI paints a beautifully futuristic picture . Oh yeah , Yoda is a BAD ASS . In every episode , we mostly see the Jedi get there asses handed to them , even though Yoda said the dark side is not more powerful , just quicker and easier . It was great to see a Jedi master live up to there reputation . The whole movie had a futuristic feel that has not been topped since BladeRunner . It lived up to what I expected , a great fantasy .

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#3035 - 05/26/02 07:35 PM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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Yeah, I realize Dooku has to die in Ep.3. I still like his character though.

Again I think the cgi was too much and too perfect in many respects. I would have liked to see the rustic and industrious look of the original trilogy, but Im happy....for now.



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#3036 - 05/27/02 08:35 AM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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Did you notice how the clones were training their midi-sequencing skills on ultra-flat monitors, while in the old trilogy you have these old IBM/Commodore PET like screens. The ones you see on the cover of Kraftwerk's 'Computer World', with the keyboard built-in.


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#3037 - 05/29/02 08:24 AM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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My two bits about "Clones" is thus: 1. Hands down better than Phantom Menace.. 2. Still didn't have the feel of parts IV, V, and VI, 3. Dialog for the most part was poor (especially for the scenes with Anakin and Amidalla "I am hoping that the kiss that never should have happened will become a deep scar that will never heal") 4. Amidalla sounded like she was reading from a cue card in every scene (I don't know if this is because she can't act or her character is a Vulcan and has no emotion) 5. Man..Darth Vader was a whiney teenager !
6. They should have cut some of the action scenes and added more romance scenes (This coming from a guy who hates watching romance films). There was no spark between Anakin and Amidalla. It felt like the romance just kind of got tossed in there at the last seccond and suddenly they were in love.
That's my Clones rant... Oh.. wait..
7. Yoda ROCKS !!

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#3038 - 05/29/02 03:13 PM Re: Attack of the Clones or Attack of the Clowns?
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I was VERY disappointed.
Lucas didn't learn very much of his faults in Ep.1. Okay, he made this movie look different, but better?
The story was not too good, the characters could all have more personality and the lightsaberfights are too fast (so fast that it's difficult to follow) and with too much jumping. And there are not very much really existing sceneries, are there? Almost everything is computer-made. I don't like that, it just doesn't look real (although the special-effects are VERY good).

The movie doesn't have the Star Wars-atmosphere. It doesn't have this magic, this spirit. And the jokes are terrible!!!

Yoda with lightsaber was silly. I didn't like it at all.
And why the hell did Uncle Owen have to be there? Now Darth Vader knows him (he's the husband of his mother!!), Obi-Wan would be SILLY to hide Luke there!! Besides: Owen doesn't know C-3PO in "Star Wars", but in Ep.II he worked with him.
And originally the Death Star was created under the command of Moff Tarkin and not by some weird insects!

But there were nice things, too:
Jango Fett was good, especially the fight with Obi-Wan. Samuel Jackson and Ewan McGregor were good, too and Hayden Christensen could have been worse. But: a man buildt like him can never turn to a man who looks like Dave Prowse (the original Darth Vader). He's 20 years old and has to grow some inches until he reaches Prowe's heigth. But Vader is taller in every direction, not only the height.
Yes, Christopher Lee was okay, too.

Obi-Wan isn't old enough. I think he should be about 30 years old, Anakin 20. But in "Star Wars" Vader calls his Master "old man". Guinnes was in the mid-sixties, Vader has to be about 40 years old to call him an old man, or not?

There are only three Star Wars-Movies: "Star Wars", "The Empire strikes Back" and "The Return of the Jedi".
And there is a "Spaceballs"-Trilogy: "Spaceballs", "Episode I" and "Episode II" !

May the force be with You (I mean the real force, not that horrible "Episode1-Medachlorians-JarJar-Anni-PODracer-he'sthechosenone-Idon'tknowanyfurtherdescription-mickeymouse"-force!

Greetings from a real Star Wars-fan (from the REAL Star Wars-Movies)!!
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