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#300379 - 12/07/10 06:49 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
mdorantes Offline
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To allow users like myself, to make styles WITHOUT the need of special software like Yamaha's or Ketrons....

Ketron needs to GIVE the FULL style tools to make them correctly, Ketron, Yamaha have a very "Light" functions, more of a marketing limited function not having access to all the necessary parameters, just for the sake to say that has it, making impossible to make "Factory" quality styles.

The more style's library, makes more appealing the brand, and many style designers can NOT do certain music genders, so, let, the native musicians from wherever country/nationality, make those styles, since there are LOTS of details on what instruments are played within certain musical band, how is played, the MUSICAL PHRASING....etc...

Check our web site...
www.styles4 arrangers.com or if you are in a hurry, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V17_L7m1Iyc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tctdgc1C-tQ


Manuel Dorantes

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#300380 - 12/07/10 08:24 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Leezone,
Yes, I think you are correct, But I think Yamaha needs to catch up in the editing dept. as well.
Some of the micro-editing (or just plain any editing at all) are sure more important than others.

Lee S.
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#300381 - 12/07/10 08:38 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Leezone... both.

mdorantes,
The tools we use to create the professional styles for Ketron are made available to the public (the Editor for the Ketron AUDYA STYLE COMPILER is on our website). What is missing is the individual software (e.g many of us who make styles for Ketron use Cubase, others use other Midi-based software, rather than the keyboard ofcourse) that used for the Midi Programming, arrangement creation, phrasing, balancing ... etc. Once the style has been created on Cubase (sort of what you would do when creating the style on the keyboard itself, but ofcourse with some limitation), then you use the Compiler to compile the style (I believe it's similar to what Yamaha uses too). Once compiled, comes the other painful aspect of balancing and we nomally use reference to pre-exisiting styles/demos (and so does Yamaha too). The extra work (on Ketron's end) is ofcourse managing the AUDIO guitars, bass and Drums mated to the style!

Hope this clarifies it ... a little bit.

By the way, congratulations on the authentic Latin styles you've created so far for Korg and Yamaha ... great demos!

Thanks,

AJ
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#300382 - 12/07/10 09:21 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
J. Larry Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
Posts: 521
Loc: University, MS 38677 USA
I wish there was a quicker way to achieve complete song status (i.e., a recorded backing track) on an arranger without having to play the song in real time, or entering chords via the step mode. Maybe a way to type-in the entire chord arrangement like with Band In A Box, with the number of choruses, intros, and endings specified. Or, better still, a way to interface BIAB to an arranger and dump entire songs (chord sequence data), select a style, tempo, etc. on the arranger, then, let it play.

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#300383 - 12/07/10 09:24 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by J. Larry:
type-in the entire chord arrangement like with Band In A Box, with the number of choruses, intros, and endings specified. Or, better still, a way to interface BIAB to an arranger and dump entire songs (chord sequence data), select a style, tempo, etc. on the arranger, then, let it play.


ditto +1
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#300384 - 12/08/10 07:19 AM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
leezone Offline
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Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 3131
wow AJ, both?

so Ketron is already at work on yet another keyboard/module?

i hope they "fix" and improve the existing AUDYA FIRST.

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#300385 - 12/10/10 05:43 PM Re: Arranger Features needed ... NOT IN ANY CURRENT ARRANGER (as of Dec 6, 2010)
Mr. G Offline
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Registered: 07/14/10
Posts: 157
Loc: Monroe, Mi. USA
(OLD) I hate the 2nd voice system on Audya, If they could incorporate the 4 button system like the yamaha Tyros. Select a sound , turn em on or off,with the touch of a button stack em the way you like. So easy and fast ,in fact I wish all keyboards had this great and easy to use feature. Or is it 3 buttons , I don't have a yamie anymore.

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