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#284136 - 03/29/10 06:05 AM Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Taike Offline
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Message from Deebach Instruments:

"Please be informed that we are not a Softwareseller. We are designing, developing and building individual Instruments.

At the moment we are developing a new Instrument on PC basis with a big 20/22 Touch Screen Monitor. This instrument will be build as a Series Model but takes some more weeks to be finished.

Please let us know if such an Instrument can find as well you interest or if you are interested in an individual designed Model.

To sell only our Software is not our interest and we can not help you in this point.

Thank you and cheers

Deebach Instruments

Frank Gabriel"


I know of the Deebach Xanadu organ but I wonder if this has something to do with Lionstracs. Any idea?

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Taike

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#284137 - 03/29/10 07:21 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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They might be developing their own version of Mediastation/open labs..

If its not based on Mediastations software, many of which is produced under the open source of Linux, they are 5 years behind on developing the instrument compared to Lionstracs and open labs.

You just can't create an ninstrument by adding a few software compontents a PC and a masterkeyboard intoo one box..

WE have learned from DOm that it takes years to get it tuned and programmed as one instrument.

Next to that, Deebach's pricing id beyound everything that most of us would want to pay for a customised instrument.
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#284138 - 03/29/10 03:45 PM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Ok, it's nothing to do with Liontracs. All sounds are created by Deebach.


As quoted by Deebach:

"The new Deebach Instrument will be based on an all in one Multi Touch PC with 4 GB Ram and 750 GB HD. The operation shall be controlled via the touch screen only (if possible)"


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#284139 - 03/29/10 03:52 PM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Well, I guess we are about to find out what the MS would REALLY cost IF you added TOTL content and OOTB ease of use...

Bet you it ain't going to be cheap...
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#284140 - 03/29/10 08:32 PM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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My guess...%8,000.

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#284141 - 03/29/10 09:12 PM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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#284142 - 03/29/10 09:44 PM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Taike Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Well, I guess we are about to find out what the MS would REALLY cost IF you added TOTL content and OOTB ease of use...

Bet you it ain't going to be cheap...


Diki, it won't feature the MS at all.

Quote:

"what I can tell you at the moment is that the new instrument is totaly developed by Deebach and has nothing to do with Lionstracs. We are doing that because we are not so happy with the functions of the Lionstracs Instruments and it seems that Lionstracs is not willing to finish their development at the moment."

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#284143 - 03/30/10 05:24 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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I don't quite get this company.
From what research I've done on them they seem to just take exsisting products and put them into big ass Organ boxes.

What's so good about that ?

That's like me saying I built a new keyboard just by opening the lid on my OASYS flight case and leaving the keyboard in the box.

Guess we will have to wait to see. It's not like they have explained a single thing yet.

James

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#284144 - 03/30/10 05:56 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
AFG Music Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
Diki, it won't feature the MS at all.

Quote:

"what I can tell you at the moment is that the new instrument is totaly developed by Deebach and has nothing to do with Lionstracs. We are doing that because we are not so happy with the functions of the Lionstracs Instruments and it seems that Lionstracs is not willing to finish their development at the moment."

Taike





can you maybe explain this:
http://www.deebach.de/informationen/index.html

or this:
http://www.deebach.de/lionstracs/index.html

???????????????????????

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#284145 - 03/30/10 06:04 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Information from the Deebach website http://www.deebach.com/index.html

Quad Core CPU - 16 MB RAM - 2x 1 TB hard drive
and the new mega XMS Sound Bank

Also there is a thread where it is mentioned on the Tastenpoint forum http://www.tastenpoint.at/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1398 (Post 5 onwards)


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#284146 - 03/30/10 06:20 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Taike Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by AFG Music:
can you maybe explain this:
http://www.deebach.de/informationen/index.html

or this:
http://www.deebach.de/lionstracs/index.html

???????????????????????


es wollte eine kooperation seitens lionstracs und deebach zustande kommen. dieses drfte wieder zerbrochen sein, drum auch keine ausstellung auf der musikmesse frankfurt.

Says here that the cooperation between Deebach and Lionstracs may have come to an end.

The quotes in my previous posts are by Deebach.

Taike

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#284147 - 03/30/10 06:38 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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so lionstracs is deceived by deebach???????????????

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#284148 - 03/30/10 06:41 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
es wollte eine kooperation seitens lionstracs und deebach zustande kommen. dieses drfte wieder zerbrochen sein, drum auch keine ausstellung auf der musikmesse frankfurt.

Says here that the cooperation between Deebach and Lionstracs may have come to an end.

The quotes in my previous posts are by Deebach.

Taike



Note:
Deebach is NOT a company, are just 2 guys with a lot of immagination and claims,with NO know how about hardware/software and ....

LIONSTRACS will NEVER have again ANY type of collaboration with this people.
Argument closed.

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#284149 - 03/30/10 07:25 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Quote:
Originally posted by LIONSTRACS:
Note:
Deebach is NOT a company, are just 2 guys with a lot of immagination and claims,with NO know how about hardware/software and ....

LIONSTRACS will NEVER have again ANY type of collaboration with this people.
Argument closed.



Now thats a clear statement

And your opinion about Deebach is confirmed by some posts of insiders of the german keyboard branche over at Tastenpoint.
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#284150 - 03/30/10 08:42 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Sure just like at their Xanadu 777 keyboard.
It's just a Pa2X stuffed into an Organ Box.

Regards
James

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#284151 - 03/30/10 08:48 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Dnj Offline
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James I was thinking that also when I saw the display design on the video?

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#284152 - 03/30/10 08:57 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Bachus Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
Sure just like at their Xanadu 777 keyboard.
It's just a Pa2X stuffed into an Organ Box.

Regards
James


Well, you must admit they added some of their own samples to the PA2X sample memmory.

(And the box looked really nice, untill you noticed the price of their Box)
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#284153 - 03/30/10 09:21 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
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Quote:
Well, you must admit they added some of their own samples to the PA2X sample memmory.


True, but look at it this way because they could get in trouble here.

I sell quite a large selection of Libraries for the Pa2X myself but I don't tell people that they have to call their keyboard an IA-Studio X2 after they load one of my sound libraries as it's a normal function of the keyboard to be able to do that.

Putting a KORG Pa2X into a box doesn't give them the right to re-badge a KORG product either with their name. Quite a dangerous thing to do actually. KORG won't like that at all.

There's nothing wrong with their idea, but it should be sold as an add on kit for exsisting products, or offer their services under customisation of existing products. Re-bagging someone else product won't go down well at all and is likley totally illegal.

Regards
James.

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#284154 - 03/30/10 11:05 AM Re: Deebach Instruments developing a new instrument
Bachus Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
True, but look at it this way because they could get in trouble here.

I sell quite a large selection of Libraries for the Pa2X myself but I don't tell people that they have to call their keyboard an IA-Studio X2 after they load one of my sound libraries as it's a normal function of the keyboard to be able to do that.

Putting a KORG Pa2X into a box doesn't give them the right to re-badge a KORG product either with their name. Quite a dangerous thing to do actually. KORG won't like that at all.

There's nothing wrong with their idea, but it should be sold as an add on kit for exsisting products, or offer their services under customisation of existing products. Re-bagging someone else product won't go down well at all and is likley totally illegal.

Regards
James.


Well... add on packages don't sell for a lot..

But rebranding an instrument and then selling it for 5 times the money of the orriginal instrument makes you a rich man

Safe to say that we both can advice anyone to be very carefull when dealing with these people.
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