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#280723 - 02/08/10 04:04 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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#280724 - 02/09/10 01:24 AM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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I think that an optimal arranger would be one with styles as we know it and with Karma that would provide some variation and "improvisation" of some of the style tracks in real time. That way, we do not lose the huge and often very worthwhile efforts that companies have invested in the styles that are musically interesting. But we also gain a way to provide variation of some of the tracks in the style so they do not repeat. In short: the style provides the basis that is varied by Karma. Can this be done?

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#280725 - 02/09/10 02:03 AM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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Originally posted by sam.safran:
I think that an optimal arranger would be one with styles as we know it and with Karma that would provide some variation and "improvisation" of some of the style tracks in real time. That way, we do not lose the huge and often very worthwhile efforts that companies have invested in the styles that are musically interesting. But we also gain a way to provide variation of some of the tracks in the style so they do not repeat. In short: the style provides the basis that is varied by Karma. Can this be done?


As i said...

This can be done, as quote from the creator of KARMA Steven Kay. But Korg has not shown any interest yet intoo adding Karma to an arranger in this way according to him.

He currently also has no intentions of adding Full arranger style integration intoo KARMA (the other way around), which also can be done, but then Karma could be named just another type of arranger and thats something he wants to prevent.

But your point is taken, as i said exactly the same before in other words, we fully agree on this, and now its up to KORG to add this to their next generation of arranger(Which also should have audio drums and tracks) that way we get close to perfection.

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#280726 - 02/10/10 03:18 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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#280727 - 02/10/10 03:38 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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MJ, I'm taking into consideration that u r a beginner and don't phrase in the beat. nevertheless, i fail to hear what the karma is doing. where is the variety in the background? seems pretty repetitious, and very boring.


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#280728 - 02/10/10 03:41 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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oh and i didn't hear anything in James" rendition with the piano controller either
that was at all interesting, and he is an accomplished pianist.what am i missing?

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#280729 - 02/10/10 09:34 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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Mystic Jammer...this is rather plain, and I hope not representative of Karma.

It reminds me a bit of Yamaha's Ethereal Movie Ballad, a free play style which sounds far better and interesting to my ears.

Perhaps if Karma was added to a style, it would have more aural impact...does the M3 have styles?

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#280730 - 02/10/10 10:11 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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#280731 - 02/10/10 11:41 PM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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the only example of Karma being actually used was the last example. The rest were all sequenced songs. Frank McCombe is just an awesome player and producer !

I am not convinced that Karma is ready to be used in arranger play for conventional music . I.E Music that doesnt sound like a computer made it.

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#280732 - 02/11/10 04:25 AM Re: Karma , The Arranger of the future (my view)
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Originally posted by spalding1968:
I am not convinced that Karma is ready to be used


No it's not and it's why i said FUTURE and not present so maybe you gave me your view of the future and stop telling it's not ready as it's evident that it's not, there's not even an arranger that have that function, only WS!!!

so again it IS or can be the future of arranger as i'm sure things won't stay as static as they are now, we need dynamic stuff like Karma but adapted to the arranger world....

All that said with a nice smile as it's so easy to misinterpret emotion on a forum

Have a nice day everyone
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