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#278220 - 12/28/09 03:20 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
saxxman Offline
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Don - as always, super super job on both cuts! I enjoyed them both, but I liked the balance and guitar sound better on version #2. You put two EXCELLENT recordings together! Great work all around!

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#278221 - 12/28/09 03:33 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
leeboy Offline
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IMHO, the guitar in # 2 is superior...

Wish I had a nice voice like you do , Don,
Nice work.
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#278222 - 12/28/09 04:44 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
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Don. I enjoyed both versions but the edge goes to version #2. Thanks for sharing.

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#278223 - 12/28/09 05:23 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
spalding Offline
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Loc: Birmingham
yes don the second version is ever so slightly. the guitar in the first one sounded a little GM ish. The second one had a better balance of sounds .

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#278224 - 12/28/09 05:45 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
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Well Willie, er Don, the second version has a more pleasing sounding guitar. Both versions are great, but #2 is better. Thanks for sharing.
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#278225 - 12/28/09 09:44 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I really appreciate all the help. Sometimes I can't trust my own ears. I didn't expect it to be so unanimous!
Number one was Roland E80.
Number two was Ketron Audya.
Both boards have a lot going for them, including excellent vocal harmonizers.
Maybe the E80 versions suffered from my choice of guitar sounds?
Thanks again,
DonM
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#278226 - 12/28/09 11:50 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
Burkels Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Alkmaar, The Netherlands, Euro...
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
I really appreciate all the help. Sometimes I can't trust my own ears. I didn't expect it to be so unanimous!


Honestly, I listened to both tracks before reading your last post Don I recognized "my" E-80, had some doubt if it could be a E-50/60 but the drums gave it away. The guitar sound you used in the E-80 is not my favorite, it's too "harsh".

The Audya has a good guitar. But all in all, I like the E-80 better. Audya's version seems "unbalanced", the guitarist and drummer are on stage, the rest of the band is in another room , and the overall sound is "thin", too thin to my liking anyway.

Great voice Don, great playing, and that's what counts MOST after all

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#278227 - 12/29/09 03:08 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
mdorantes Offline
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Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
Hi Don:

I knew immediately what keyboard in each of the songs, I like more # 2(Audya), BUT, the Harmonizer & Vocals on #1(E80) where more real/present, in the Audya, was not as clear, in witch you had more reverb.

And yes, I think the guitar sound on the E80 was not up to date "guitar" sounds.

One thing, you are the best keyboard player that knows how to make real sounding guitar licks.

Manuel

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#278228 - 12/30/09 08:22 AM Re: Help with kb comparison
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Thanks for all the kind comments and the help. I have taken the suggestions and implemented some needed adjustments in balance.
DonM
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#278229 - 01/01/10 02:40 PM Re: Help with kb comparison
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
I enjoyed your down home country vocals Don, as always. As far as the music is concerned I liked the second one the best although the guitars just don't do it for me, especially the latter of the two in the song. The E80 guitar was the most underwhelming of the bunch of course as other members have noted.

It seems like in this day and age producing authentic sounding guitars by the Big Three and/or Ketron, etc., would be the norm instead of the exception. Needless to say, it hasn't gotten to that point yet.

I'm also really surprised by that paltry guitar offering from Roland on the E80 too. Of course, the E80 is a few years old now so I expect the G70 successor will experience better acoustic guitars on it when it comes out > with the E80 being discontinued and all, and with no replacement for it 'ever' from what I understand. Although if the G70 successor only has 61 keys then I guess you could consider that a true E80 successor right? But if it only has 61 keys... well, you know the rest.

All the best,
Mike

PS: Really enjoyed your git pickin' fingering finesse too Don.
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