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#275494 - 11/10/09 07:32 AM Audya Nuts
Tony Hughes Offline
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Hi,

This has been on Youtube for some time have you all seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zNfqdLrf0&feature=related

Regards

Tony
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#275495 - 11/10/09 07:55 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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I can see (hear) why this instrument is such a heart-breaker for some, because it sounds simply awesome.

If you want the "live" sound, this is the one.

Hopefully, all the little quirky things will get sorted out.

I can why Don likes this board...Country would really have a natural "right in the room with the band" sound.

The guy demoing does a nice job...very upbeat and professional.
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#275496 - 11/10/09 08:15 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
If you want the "live" sound, this is the one....
.. The guy demoing does a nice job...very upbeat and professional.



This is the real good thing about Ketron arrangers, it sounds live and are very
"band alike", good volume balance, and the great bass and drums who make the final
touch at it. It's sure a keyboard for live playing.

And yeah, the guy demoing not only play well, but also put some humor into it.
That's the way to go. Nice.

GJ
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#275497 - 11/10/09 09:16 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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It all depends on if we want/need that "live" sound...I chose Yamaha for it's lovely refined and slightly compressed sound.

As I said to someone earlier today, we all drive different cars....they meet our needs, and our style and sometimes, they support our egos as well...hence the luxury cars, and people buying SUV's that will never even go off the pavement.

If "live" sound works for you, the Audya seems to be the ticket to ride...it is more "live" sounding than Roland and Korg as well...but, sometimes that type of sound is not as important to some people...I'm one of them, as I'm sure there are many more.

Ian
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#275498 - 11/10/09 09:35 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Good sounding instrument overall but that Sax @5:12 was, frankly, awful. I know Diki hates that reverb-drenched Korg Sax that I use a lot, but at least from time to time you can tell that it's a sax I'm trying to emulate. Frankly, the Yamaha SA sax sounds much more authentic when played alone but I just like the sound of the Korg better when played in a mix (depending of the type of tune, of course). Like Ian says, it's not a matter of which is best, but what works best for you. Overall, a very full-sounding instrument with great drums and guitar. I've never been a fan of Ketron styles but that's probably because of the genre's I favor.

chas
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#275499 - 11/10/09 10:14 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Yeah, the Audya's sax isn't the best I've heard.

The idea behind having those alternate sounds, especially on an arranger, is so we can pretend to be the Sax player, and perhaps add a part in our music that a real sax player would actually put there if he was playing in our "virtual band".

So we try to play it idiomatically so it sounds reasonably like a sax.

This is all the better when the Sax sound on our keyboard is pleasing to listen to, as well as reasonably responsive to playing technique.

Sadly, an unpleasant sax sound, can't be rescued by any amount of technique and/or reverb.

The Audya's sax, at least the one that was demoed in this clip, is in this category...of course, it seemed more of a sax section sound, and there seemed to be another sound layered with it.

The Audya must have better sax sounds than that one.

Very few, if any, keyboard players, can emulate a sax player exactly...David Sancious comes close (he uses a breath controller) but, for the majority of us, all we can do is use the sound as expressively as possible, and treat it as another color we can use from our arranger's palette of sounds.

Ian



[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 11-10-2009).]
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#275500 - 11/10/09 11:27 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Quote:
Originally posted by cgiles:
Good sounding instrument overall but that Sax @5:12 was, frankly, awful. I know Diki hates that reverb-drenched Korg Sax that I use a lot, but at least from time to time you can tell that it's a sax I'm trying to emulate. Frankly, the Yamaha SA sax sounds much more authentic when played alone but I just like the sound of the Korg better when played in a mix (depending of the type of tune, of course). Like Ian says, it's not a matter of which is best, but what works best for you. Overall, a very full-sounding instrument with great drums and guitar. I've never been a fan of Ketron styles but that's probably because of the genre's I favor.

chas


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#275501 - 11/10/09 11:30 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Audya has some excellent sax sounds. This wasn't one of them.
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#275502 - 11/10/09 11:40 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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That's good to hear, Don...I couldn't imagine they'd fall that far down on the Sax sounds, when everything else seems to be of very high quality....methinks buddy-at-the-keys just didn't look hard enough.

Are there a lot of Country styles, or Pop/Swing/R&B that will also work well in that genre?

As someone said on another topic, the styles don't seem to have a dramatic difference between variations.

That works well for some, including , me...I like the style to do a nice logical transition from part to part, and I sometimes have to edit to get the smoothness I want.

How are the Audya styles in this respect?

Ian
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#275503 - 11/10/09 11:59 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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There are more styles suitable for country than on any other keyboard I've seen.
Also very good jazz/swing, ballads and r&r.
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#275504 - 11/10/09 04:57 PM Re: Audya Nuts
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Yesterday I played an Audya in the Music store here in The Hague. I must say he sounded very good and the drums are fantastic. So I take back my words about that Ketron Audya sound thin and metallic and apologize for calling it crap.
Now the downside The Price 4400 Euro.
Come On. For 2100 Euro I can buy the Korg PA 800 what I gonna do next month. I also played the Tyros 3 and this keyboard is also overpriced 3700 Euro. For 1700 Euro I can buy the PSR s910 which is a great keyboard for the price and sound as good as the Tyros 3 only missing some features.
So first I gonna buy the Korg PA 800 and somewhere next year the psr s910. That way I have 2 great keyboards to play with and still cheaper than the Audya.

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#275505 - 11/10/09 07:02 PM Re: Audya Nuts
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Not bad, but wouldn't swap out the 800 for it.
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#275506 - 11/11/09 12:40 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Synthplanet (in Belgium) sells the Audya for 3639.99 euros.
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#275507 - 11/11/09 06:18 PM Re: Audya Nuts
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Synthplanet (in Belgium) sells the Audya for 3639.99 euros.


Dreamer,

Good to see you post. How are you doing? Still playing the PA2X?
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#275508 - 11/12/09 01:59 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Originally posted by zuki:
Dreamer,

Good to see you post. How are you doing? Still playing the PA2X?


Thank you Zuki.
Yes, I am still playing the PA2X and am customizing it to my needs day after day (sampling or importing new sounds and grooves, converting styles and so on). So, I guess that's one keyboard I will NEVER sell, because selling it would mean throwing away two years of work.
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#275509 - 11/12/09 03:35 AM Re: Audya Nuts
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Thank you Zuki.
Yes, I am still playing the PA2X and am customizing it to my needs day after day (sampling or importing new sounds and grooves, converting styles and so on). So, I guess that's one keyboard I will NEVER sell, because selling it would mean throwing away two years of work.


Now that is really using an arranger for what it was made for.
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