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#269139 - 08/12/09 04:02 PM Which Arranger?
hammer Offline
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Ok, if you made a change would you buy the Korg PA2X Pro, The Korg PA 800, or the Roland E80 and why.

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#269140 - 08/12/09 04:47 PM Re: Which Arranger?
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neither of them, I would just keep what I have if those were my only choices.
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#269141 - 08/12/09 04:56 PM Re: Which Arranger?
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None ......

just wait for what's coming down the pike!

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#269142 - 08/12/09 07:31 PM Re: Which Arranger?
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Quote:
Originally posted by hammer:
Ok, if you made a change would you buy the Korg PA2X Pro, The Korg PA 800, or the Roland E80 and why.

Hammer


If you made the change from WHAT?
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#269143 - 08/12/09 07:46 PM Re: Which Arranger?
hammer Offline
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What I am trying to do here is get folks talking about what Arranger they would buy if they needed to replace what they currently play - not the same one though. We all have our favorites and many of us have owned several. So hopefully without bashing on others opinions - what would you buy if you could not play your current favorite arranger?

Hammer

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#269144 - 08/12/09 07:56 PM Re: Which Arranger?
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Well, that list is pretty incomplete if you are simply asking what we would use if we could NOT use our current arranger. Where's the Audya, the Yamaha's, the Wersi's, etc.?

It IS a tough question. One I answered for myself this week, in a way. Were my G70 to die, I have bought a backup G70! Were none available at any cost, that would be a devastating day. I need a 76, so there goes the Yamaha's. I need easy editing and customization, there goes the Audya and SD-1. I need an easy to use OS and plenty of fills (and a better piano and B3) so there goes the Korg's.

I just don't know... And I have a sneaky feeling that many would agree with me. If we COULD happily play something else in comparison to what we own, we would already be likely playing it!
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#269145 - 08/13/09 01:32 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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I think the question should be worded as What Arranger would you use if your own arranger failed, could NOT be fixed and NO replacements were available anywhere?

As Diki said, it would be devastating to have to change, but with no other option there would be no other choice, so here are my 2nd and 3rd choices.

2nd
CME Midi Controller, PC/Laptop, Livestyler Software, Ketron SD2 Hardware Module and various VSTi

3rd
If forced to have a Hardware Arranger then it would be the Korg PA2x, as it gives the closest in sound quality and flexibility (As far as hardware can be) to my current Wersi Abacus.

Hopefully this will bring the post back on track and get users thinking

Bill


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#269146 - 08/13/09 02:15 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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To be honest, I'm not sure I WOULD get another arranger. I'm certainly not in love with any of the new crop, but keyboards like the Nord Stage, MoXS7 and M3 might do the job... No, they're not arrangers. But they can get close, with work.

But OK, let's say you send me off to a desert island and I HAVE to take an arranger (except the G70)... Right now, I suppose it would have to be the PA2Xpro, as it is the only arranger with a 76, decent styles and sounds, and a nice sampler for when I get bored of its' sounds. Oh, and it's not still in beta Fix everything wrong with the Audya, that might be a good one, but the question was about NOW.
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#269147 - 08/13/09 02:21 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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Originally posted by Diki:
To be honest, I'm not sure I WOULD get another arranger. I'm certainly not in love with any of the new crop, but keyboards like the Nord Stage, MoXS7 and M3 might do the job... No, they're not arrangers. But they can get close, with work.

But OK, let's say you send me off to a desert island and I HAVE to take an arranger (except the G70)... Right now, I suppose it would have to be the PA2Xpro, as it is the only arranger with a 76, decent styles and sounds, and a nice sampler for when I get bored of its' sounds. Oh, and it's not still in beta Fix everything wrong with the Audya, that might be a good one, but the question was about NOW.


If you could only find that darn outlet.

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#269148 - 08/13/09 02:44 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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You never saw Gilligan's Island? They had everything, and Ginger never ran out of clothes... (damn!)
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#269149 - 08/13/09 06:00 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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This is an easy decision for me...The G70 is my first choice for all of the previously noted reasons...

If they were all removed from earth.. ...My choice would be the MediaStation MX76....but since I already own that board, maybe I should make another selection, I do not own (or need)....My 3rd choice would be the Korg PA2x...relunctantly...
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#269150 - 08/13/09 06:22 AM Re: Which Arranger?
leezone Offline
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Fran,

so the G-70 over the AUDYA?

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#269151 - 08/13/09 06:22 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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I would go with M3 and take advantage of Karma on it...Maybe use Live styler on a PC for some arranger stuff too.

Lee S.
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#269152 - 08/13/09 06:48 AM Re: Which Arranger?
Fran Carango Offline
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by leezone:
Fran,

so the G-70 over the AUDYA?


Since I haven't seen or played a Audya..it was not considered....But I think it is a fair assumption the G70 would win over the Audya...for me...

I like the Ketron stuff...but as history shows...I kept my G1000 over my X1...for reasons other than sound...and I think those reasons will be the same with the Audya...

DonM mentioned a new OS on the Audya..that was one of the downers for me with Ketron, along with inferior SMF play {compared to Roland}..The poor mic/harmony control and operation ... to me ...

A lot of my comments on the Ketron, hold true with the Korg too...

Now that you got me thinking...I am glad I have a G70 (and a backup E80)...and a MediaStation right here in front of me...If they disappeared...I think I will use my accordion..
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#269153 - 08/13/09 09:34 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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Anything of the PA series over anything else including Audya or MS, even PA50 would do it.
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#269154 - 08/13/09 10:22 AM Re: Which Arranger?
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Never been tempted by Yamaha and I've never seen a G70 but, being a 76 fan, I'd give the big Roland a shot. Thing is, on a desert island (short of Gilligan's ) I'm not sure I could pedal hard enough on a generator and keep my fingers in the right places.

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#269155 - 08/13/09 03:11 PM Re: Which Arranger?
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Hi Hammer,
basically went thru this scenario with Technics. My favoured brand of keyboard for approx 15 years.
One day they just pulled the plug , no more Technics. Sold my KN7000, because I didn't want to invest time in a redundent brand.

Tried the pc software arranger route. Thoroughly enjoyed it, but I had the spare time to edit styles etc.

Bought Ketron SD1+, didn't suit as it lacked some of the styles I required, & trying to convert from other formats was difficult because of lack of style editing functions in the Ketron.

Bought a psr1500, like a lot of the styles, but just wasn't the right board for me.

Bought Korg PA800, never looked back. Lacks some of the styles I use ( just like Ketron did) but I'm now happy converting & editing , or putting together my own.

Quite frankly, I don't think any of the boards really have the simple type of styles I require, so I chose the one that had the best functions for me.
best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by abacus:
[B]I think the question should be worded as What Arranger would you use if your own arranger failed, could NOT be fixed and NO replacements were available anywhere?
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