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#261069 - 04/05/09 01:16 PM "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Here's my rendition of Carly Simon's "You're so vain" on my Roland E-80.

No styles, no MIDIfile. Just me playing all parts in Cubase. I then transferred the sequence to the internal sequencer of the E-80 and added the strum guitar in Guitar Mode (since Cubase has a hard time understanding that while recording :-) ). After that, I used the MakeUp-tools of the E-80 to get the mix right. If anyone feels he or she can sing this, let me know! I played the lead on top of it just to make it "complete".

Here's the link: http://www.4shared.com/file/96076251/b3da3f15/Youre_so_vain_-_Roland_E-80.html

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#261070 - 04/05/09 01:30 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Nice job on this one, Burkels...
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#261071 - 04/05/09 01:32 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Originally posted by Diki:
Nice job on this one, Burkels...


Thanks Diki Enough ghosting to your liking?

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#261072 - 04/05/09 03:19 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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i enjoyed this too. Very well sequenced

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#261073 - 04/05/09 03:58 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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A fine job of sequencing, Burkels, very nice definition between the parts and lots of feeling and expression.

The arrangement was excellent.

My choice of the melody instrument would have been a sustaining type sound like harmonica or even saxophone, but that's just personal taste and the electric piano worked very nicely all the same.

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#261074 - 04/05/09 07:21 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Great job ...... thnx for sharing ...
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#261075 - 04/05/09 08:48 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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that is really fine work.
I could have played in through my E 80 Ver 2 but I forgot how to do it. I only did that once. But even through the computer sound card and the sound wall it is really fine.
thanks for sharing this fine talent.
Best regards,
Bebop
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#261076 - 04/06/09 04:24 AM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Thank you for all your positive reactions

Bebop, this is not a MIDI-file, so you couldn't run it through your E-80 (you could of course play the MP3 through it, but that doesn't make much sense unless you like the way your E-80 plays MP3's a lot :-)
What you hear _is_ the E-80.

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#261077 - 04/06/09 05:22 AM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Burkels! Excellent work all around! Your E-80 sounds great and so do you!

Randy
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#261078 - 04/06/09 01:52 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Only one comment, soundwise about the whole thing, Burkels...

To be honest, I felt that the snare drum sound is a little 'flat', especially when pushed harder. Very little tonal dynamics, etc.. Perhaps if you layered it with one of the V-Drum (maybe the Pop or the R&B) snares that open up and rimshot at high velocities might help it snap out of the track a bit more... Just a thought, anyway. I know those seventies tracks did have a fairly dead snare drum, but not THAT dead!

BTW, seeing as how you put the MIDI file into the E80, added the Guitar Mode stuff and used Makeup Tools, you ought to have an SMF that COULD be played on anyone else's E80...
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#261079 - 04/06/09 02:50 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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I know those seventies tracks did have a fairly dead snare drum, but not THAT dead!


Agreed. I think I'll look into those snare-notes again. I know you love the V-kits, but the New Rock is so wonderful broad stereo... I think that I can get that snare "fatter" by tone editing it, or maybe just selecting another snare. The E-80 has truckloads of them (You got to LOVE the MakeUp tools...)

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BTW, seeing as how you put the MIDI file into the E80, added the Guitar Mode stuff and used Makeup Tools, you ought to have an SMF that COULD be played on anyone else's E80...


That's correct. I have.

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#261080 - 04/06/09 03:20 PM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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In sequencer mode, you can have as many drum tracks as you want... so there's no reason to give up the rest of the kit to get the snare sound you want if it is not available by Makeup Tools...

Oh, and I think I'd just layer it in the background, rather than replace the snare outright. To a certain extent, the basic sound is 'sound' it just needs some extra 'pop' to make it more timbrally dynamic, IMO...

You could 'copy' just the snare note, paste into another MIDI track, and then Makeup Tool (or transpose) it to be the snare sound you want. Then a volume command (not reducing the velocity) will sit it in the mix without losing the full dynamic range...

Hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 04-06-2009).]
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#261081 - 04/07/09 08:26 AM Re: "You're so vain" on a Roland E-80
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Nice stuff! Would have preferred real guitar, but that's my sensitive spot, and what you used is OK.

Much prefer what you did over a sequence i heard done on a T-3 the other day. Like the Roland sounds a lot.


Russ

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