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#253595 - 01/15/09 02:34 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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That little old E413 is an incredibly useful, and quite inexpensive, studio tool...the arps are very useful, and can be filtered etc, not to mention the rather fat sound you can wring out of it,...the filter even self oscilates...

The organ sounds are wild when filtered, and the strings and brass are very cool.

I play a Jupiter 8 and I was very impressed at the sound of the E413's filter.

The styles are alright, but it sure is a hoot to use the filter and arps...the thing sounds GOOD real GOOD...quick and easy.

To get back on topic...the new Roland looks like a winner...they are targeting the "home entertainment" market with the Prelude, and I think it will do well.

Ian
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#253596 - 01/15/09 02:47 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14207
Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by Dnj:
So diki what R U tryin to say here?



I guess just trying (and succeeding!) at getting a rise out of y'all...

I hate to be proved right about this, but I've been saying for a while that the TOTL über-expensive arranger is getting to be like the 'home organ'... a dying breed, slowly heading towards extinction, and that it would serve Roland best to concentrate on the low-end, 'home' market. The Prelude looks like the perfect product for the times...

Let's face it, were it not for the huge sales of low end PSR's and even cheaper series arrangers that Yamaha make, how long could THEIR arranger division survive on the sales of S900's and T3's ALONE...?

They may not be as glamorous as a T3, but they, and not the TOTL arrangers, are what is keeping Yamaha afloat. Perhaps Roland are starting to recognize this. Trying to survive on G-series and E-series arrangers will not help Roland survive. But a very good low end arranger, with speakers and all the karaoke sh*t that the kids like WILL...
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#253597 - 01/15/09 02:55 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
You mean like the PSR-E413...

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Cont...D205100,00.html



Just what I need a Yamaha 32 voice polyphony arranger...
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#253598 - 01/15/09 03:01 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:

Just what I need a Yamaha 32 voice polyphony arranger...



Certainly not what you need Fran, but it is inexpensive, a lot of fun, and a real inspiration to getting sounds that defy description.

Much more of a hoot to play than you might imagine. Think of it, if you like, as a librarian with a G-string under the tweed.

Ian
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#253599 - 01/15/09 03:15 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
Posts: 6703
Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Think of it, if you like, as a librarian with a G-string under the tweed.

Ian



Boy, you've got a vivid imagination Ian.



chas
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#253600 - 01/15/09 03:23 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by cgiles:
Boy, you've got a vivid imagination Ian.



chas



Thanks Chas...I owe it all to my parents, especially my mother and father.
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#253601 - 01/15/09 03:27 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
124 Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 2195
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Remember, fuddy-duddies CAN'T use the knobs... they are already playing with both hands Only someone that thinks that playing ONE part with one hand while he twists knobs with his other is all he needs to do has a use for this, surely?


Dammit! All along it's been US that are obsolete, not arrangers. I wanna upgrade to three hands!

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#253602 - 01/15/09 03:53 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14207
Loc: NW Florida
I've GOT three hands...

Trouble is, I have to hold my drink with one of them
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#253603 - 01/15/09 04:33 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
lukitoh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/00
Posts: 550
Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
I tried the E403 which is essentially the same but one generation older.

The amplified sound is not great. I compared it with PSR3000 and you can clearly see the amplified sound is terrible.

Ian: did you notice that ? maybe you got the new E-413 that fixes the problem

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#253604 - 01/15/09 04:42 PM Re: new roland arranger: prelude
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14207
Loc: NW Florida
Ian just sees the Yamaha logo, and that's good enough for HIM...
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